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Title: Staking Rules
Post by: welsh1980 on May 03, 2013, 09:55:34 AM
Just a few comments in regards to the staking rules.
We have a lot of new members on here now who mostly play at DTD. If they are the same as me, they very rarely post but like reading through the forums. I'm coming up to 3 years as a member on here in August, but still don't have 300 posts, however would like the option to stake or be staked.
Could there be an alternative to the 300 post minimum, such as a minimum membership time? This would give those who post less often an opportunity to put up staking threads, or to buy a stake in others.

I welcome your thoughts and comments.
Thanks
Ceri


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: kinboshi on May 03, 2013, 10:00:54 AM
There is a combination of time and number of posts.

It's to help protect both sides, and also means the staking boards are a privilege that blonde members earn for contributing to the forum.


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2013, 10:05:04 AM
Hi Ceri,

We think the 300 Post thing is the least worst option. The biggest negative it has is when people try to artificially reach 300 Posts by flood-posting drivel. That is so transparent, & most blondes are savvy enough to see through it.

It is not ideal, no, & plenty of people don't agree, which is fair enough, but on balance, we don't know a better way, & the important thing is that, for the most part, we don't have much problem with non-payers.

I think an alternative view might be that folks like yourself, who have been here a long time but don't Post much, might struggle to get staked. Why? Not because you are not deemed worthy, but by far the great majority of staking on blonde is sort of "Community" staking, where we support our forum friends & colleagues.  By definition, these folks embrace the Community here & Post more.  Not saying that is right or wrong, but it is a fact. "Strangers", be that fair or otherwise, rarely get staked, this is not 2+2.


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: TightEnd on May 03, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
The actual guideline is

- You may offer to stake players, or ask for staking, but only if you have a minimum of 300 forum posts and have been a member of the forum for at least three months.


Both are arbitrary, but it works very well. This can be seen in the every low level of problems we have on the board, such as grimming

Yes it does exclude some people who prefer to read rather than post but I don't see much that needs changing really

The occasional person posts nonsense to try to get to 300 quickly, but by and large we don't see much of that either

 


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: kinboshi on May 03, 2013, 10:10:47 AM
Ceri, post as much as you talk at the table and you'll beon 300 posts before lunch ;)


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: Vinodh on May 03, 2013, 10:17:22 AM
Just a few comments in regards to the staking rules.
We have a lot of new members on here now who mostly play at DTD. If they are the same as me, they very rarely post but like reading through the forums. I'm coming up to 3 years as a member on here in August, but still don't have 300 posts, however would like the option to stake or be staked.
Could there be an alternative to the 300 post minimum, such as a minimum membership time? This would give those who post less often an opportunity to put up staking threads, or to buy a stake in others.

I welcome your thoughts and comments.
Thanks
Ceri

I wanted to ask this question for a long time... I guess I may be next to smashedagain in reading the forum on a daily basis... I am more interested in buying pieces of actions of fellow blondes rather than getting staked as I am more of a rec player .. But I guess rules are rules!!!


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: welsh1980 on May 03, 2013, 10:18:49 AM
Ceri, post as much as you talk at the table and you'll beon 300 posts before lunch ;)
If I could write as good as I can talk I would be top member


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: kinboshi on May 03, 2013, 10:34:26 AM
Ceri, post as much as you talk at the table and you'll beon 300 posts before lunch ;)
If I could write as good as I can talk I would be top member


At least people can understand you when you post ;) Although I can't help but read your posts in your accent :D


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: welsh1980 on May 03, 2013, 10:47:15 AM
Just a few comments in regards to the staking rules.
We have a lot of new members on here now who mostly play at DTD. If they are the same as me, they very rarely post but like reading through the forums. I'm coming up to 3 years as a member on here in August, but still don't have 300 posts, however would like the option to stake or be staked.
Could there be an alternative to the 300 post minimum, such as a minimum membership time? This would give those who post less often an opportunity to put up staking threads, or to buy a stake in others.

I welcome your thoughts and comments.
Thanks
Ceri

I wanted to ask this question for a long time... I guess I may be next to smashedagain in reading the forum on a daily basis... I am more interested in buying pieces of actions of fellow blondes rather than getting staked as I am more of a rec player .. But I guess rules are rules!!!
Vin you are the sat king


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: redsimon on May 03, 2013, 10:53:27 AM
Can posters with fewer than 300 posts see the staking board and just cannot post or is it totally blocked for them?


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: welsh1980 on May 03, 2013, 10:56:51 AM
Can posters with fewer than 300 posts see the staking board and just cannot post or is it totally blocked for them?
We can see all posts,just can't reply in thread


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: FUN4FRASER on May 03, 2013, 11:07:46 AM
Can posters with fewer than 300 posts see the staking board and just cannot post or is it totally blocked for them?
We can see all posts,just can't reply in thread

Get Posting More Boyo   :)


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: welsh1980 on May 03, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
Can posters with fewer than 300 posts see the staking board and just cannot post or is it totally blocked for them?
We can see all posts,just can't reply in thread

Get Posting More Boyo   :)
I understand that rules are rules.
I just think I contribute in differaunt ways ### for every Author there is a Reader


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: Skippy on May 03, 2013, 11:21:25 AM
Needing 300 posts before you can ask for a staking thread is a Good Rule that I think helps stop people from getting grimmed.

Needing 300 posts before you can buy a piece is a stupid rule that doesn't do anyone any favours- how can you get grimmed? Just ask for all money up front from anyone you don't know well, anyone who doesn't pay before the event isn't booked.

Since the second rule is totally ignored anyway (I've just looked through the top threads on the staking forum and 80% of them have sold via Facebook/ via PM/ in person/ on other forums etc.) it doesn't matter anyway. So Ceri, if you want to buy a bit, just PM the thread starter.

(If the answer is that from a technical point of view on the forum software can't block people with fewer than 300 posts from starting a thread but still allow them to post, then fair enough, but just say that).


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: tikay on May 03, 2013, 11:30:50 AM
Needing 300 posts before you can ask for a staking thread is a Good Rule that I think helps stop people from getting grimmed.

Needing 300 posts before you can buy a piece is a stupid rule that doesn't do anyone any favours- how can you get grimmed? Just ask for all money up front from anyone you don't know well, anyone who doesn't pay before the event isn't booked.

Since the second rule is totally ignored anyway (I've just looked through the top threads on the staking forum and 80% of them have sold via Facebook/ via PM/ in person/ on other forums etc.) it doesn't matter anyway. So Ceri, if you want to buy a bit, just PM the thread starter.

(If the answer is that from a technical point of view on the forum software can't block people with fewer than 300 posts from starting a thread but still allow them to post, then fair enough, but just say that).

If only it were that complicated. I just don't think it crossed our minds, to be honest.

You make a fair point as to buyers, as opposed to sellers, but it rarely causes a problem in truth, because it is so easy to circumvent, & nobody ever "flood Posts" to enable them to BUY, only to sell.

 


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 03, 2013, 11:37:10 AM
just sell on FB if u cant get 300 posts


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: EvilPie on May 03, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
Needing 300 posts before you can ask for a staking thread is a Good Rule that I think helps stop people from getting grimmed.

Needing 300 posts before you can buy a piece is a stupid rule that doesn't do anyone any favours- how can you get grimmed? Just ask for all money up front from anyone you don't know well, anyone who doesn't pay before the event isn't booked.

Since the second rule is totally ignored anyway (I've just looked through the top threads on the staking forum and 80% of them have sold via Facebook/ via PM/ in person/ on other forums etc.) it doesn't matter anyway. So Ceri, if you want to buy a bit, just PM the thread starter.

(If the answer is that from a technical point of view on the forum software can't block people with fewer than 300 posts from starting a thread but still allow them to post, then fair enough, but just say that).

It's not just about the grimming though there's the community aspect to consider.

Some of the staking threads have been brilliant thanks to everyone being involved knowing each other through the forum.

If some random had come along and bought all of the James Keys Aussie millions action when he managed to lose a 12 to 1 heads up lead do you think there would be a 35 page thread in the live staking board about it?

It would have been a purely business transaction that nobody would have really cared about.

Same goes for Mondatoo when he had a good run at the Monte Carlo. People had backed him and got to follow the live update to sweat their investment. None of that would have happened if someone that none of us know had backed him.

Keeping it to active forum members means that we all get to share the fun.

Leave it as it is in my opinion.


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: Dewi_cool on May 03, 2013, 12:58:45 PM
Ceri writes with a welsh accent :-)


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: paulhouk03 on May 03, 2013, 01:03:40 PM
Didn't rasta fish try sell on his diary


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: Skippy on May 03, 2013, 01:04:19 PM
Needing 300 posts before you can ask for a staking thread is a Good Rule that I think helps stop people from getting grimmed.

Needing 300 posts before you can buy a piece is a stupid rule that doesn't do anyone any favours- how can you get grimmed? Just ask for all money up front from anyone you don't know well, anyone who doesn't pay before the event isn't booked.

Since the second rule is totally ignored anyway (I've just looked through the top threads on the staking forum and 80% of them have sold via Facebook/ via PM/ in person/ on other forums etc.) it doesn't matter anyway. So Ceri, if you want to buy a bit, just PM the thread starter.

(If the answer is that from a technical point of view on the forum software can't block people with fewer than 300 posts from starting a thread but still allow them to post, then fair enough, but just say that).

It's not just about the grimming though there's the community aspect to consider.

Some of the staking threads have been brilliant thanks to everyone being involved knowing each other through the forum.

If some random had come along and bought all of the James Keys Aussie millions action when he managed to lose a 12 to 1 heads up lead do you think there would be a 35 page thread in the live staking board about it?

It would have been a purely business transaction that nobody would have really cared about.

Same goes for Mondatoo when he had a good run at the Monte Carlo. People had backed him and got to follow the live update to sweat their investment. None of that would have happened if someone that none of us know had backed him.

Keeping it to active forum members means that we all get to share the fun.

Leave it as it is in my opinion.


This is a good point, and one I hadn't considered.


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 05, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
If you wanted to buy some pieces cud you not PM the person? Youd be expected to pay promtly or offer a reference if you werent personally known but that shouldnt be a problem


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: pokerfan on May 05, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
If you wanted to buy some pieces cud you not PM the person? Youd be expected to pay promtly or offer a reference if you werent personally known but that shouldnt be a problem
From the rules,
- not only can you not ask for staking if you have less than 300 posts but also you can't offer staking with less than 300, whether on other threads or by PM

This is designed to minimise risk to the potential stakee of not receiving funds. We recognise that in some cases people with under 300 posts will be known to the stakee but this clause has to be set for all rather than spend our time considering on a case by case basis


Doesn't apply in real life though.


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: Young_gun on May 05, 2013, 08:56:57 PM
Some good points in this thread i often did wonder about the 300 post rule but agree it is a good way of doing it and seems fair.

I remember i put one up accidentally and TK snap deleted it :( as i wasnt aware of the rules

Just keep posting really, although i do think buying a stake the rule should not apply but that would probably get a bit technical

(1 post nearer to 300 ;) )


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: redsimon on May 15, 2013, 11:46:49 AM
Simple way round the 300 post rule: start a diary and keep mentioning you are selling pieces in xyz tourney :)


Title: Re: Staking Rules
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
Some good points in this thread i often did wonder about the 300 post rule but agree it is a good way of doing it and seems fair.

I remember i put one up accidentally and TK snap deleted it :( as i wasnt aware of the rules

Just keep posting really, although i do think buying a stake the rule should not apply but that would probably get a bit technical

(1 post nearer to 300 ;) )

John.

The Staking Rules, including the 300 Post Rule, are stickied at the top of both Staking Boards.



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