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http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/winner

^ All the prices and songs here.

Fwiw I'm massively against Denmark @ 6/4. It's being priced up the same as Norway a few years ago and Sweden last year and it's nowhere near as clear cut this time.

The ESC is best played aggressively and my four against the field are Netherlands (25/1), Georgia (25/1), Sweden (33/1) and Moldova (125/1+).

Sweden are now around twice the price as when I backed them, which isn't good, but the song is proven with voters. Melodifestivalen is half Swedish phone votes and half international juries. He finished second to a hyped-up crap song with the Swedes and crushed the phone voting, which augurs well.

I've no idea why Moldova isn't priced up in the live 25-33/1 category.

First semi Tue 14, second semi Thu 16, Final Sat 18.

Dear God no, spare me this......

^ Banned. Get back to your own thread ta.

Love this as a betting contest not sure I've seen more than two songs.

Eso Kral sent me a PM.

He suggests backing the UK to finish last, first, and Bonnie to be voted SPOTY.

rotflmfao

<<<>>>Tikay

Eso is backing Poland, so that he can watch next year's contest in its capital.

Are we confusing Walsall with Warsaw?

WP Tikay!

I've just backed everything Chompy put up, can't even remember where now...

Still will be a kid on easter egg hunt trying to find the gold if we get weighed in on any of them :)

Are they not one and the same?

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Same for Fred.

We have backed 17 different countries so far, + NATO, UNESCO & the UN.

How can we lose?

We've even backed Moldova. Is there such a place? Pretty sure Michael Bentine, Peter Sellars & Harry Secombe invented Moldova.

kenny jackett is on standby for the uk

We are ON

lump on lump on e.t.c

http://paddypowerblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/eurovision-2013-red-hot-denm-2.pdf

http://blog.paddypower.com/2013/05/14/eurovision-2013-who-have-you-been-backing/

I'm currently going through the list and, really, purely in terms of songs (and not voting patterns) the top of the betting is not that strong. Sweden and Netherlands do stand out when put up against the rest.

^^ Very much this.

Tonight's semi-final is very likely to produce the overall winner - Thursday's semi is poor in comparison - which makes it unmissable viewing.

Freerolling from that other coup ages ago, so just topped up on both  :)up

#inchompywetrust

"..........unmissable viewing.........."

Dear God, save me from this.

BigAdz is on the winner

Just done this - began as serious aid memoire to the songs before I just started being rude about the singers.


Denmark - barefoot singer, good, but not the best

Ukraine - V pretty brunette, great singer, song promises more than it delivers

Norway - pretty blonde, quite electro, good modern song, bit too modern?

Russia - Ballad, bit X-Factory, quite dreary.

Azerbaijan - Impressively eyebrowed man, though charisma-free. Boy-band ballad, unmemorable.

Georgia - Boy/girl combo, Dreary ballad, goes nowhere, though with one big note they hold for a while.

Italy - Comedy sideburns and quiff. Starts off super boring, does build to somewhat of a climax once some guitars come in. May be a grower - unfortunately most people will only hear it once as Italy go straight to the final.

Germany - Cascada, may sing out of tune on night. Standard Eurodance number in response to last years winner, though nowhere near as catchy as that.

UK - Bonnie Tyler - a poor song which will be sung badly by someone who was famous a million years ago. Very similar to Englebert Humperdinck, who sank without trace.

Netherlands - Wonderful song, original entry for Eurovision. May need a bit of oomph in performance as it's quite a delicate song.

Sweden - Obv amazing, genuinely catchy and memorable song - very hummable. Big finish as well.

Ireland - Eurodance sung by a boyband reject. A load of nothing.

San Marino - two songs in one, first 2 minutes quite promising big ballad, then changes into up tempo with a moderately big finish. Quite impressive considering the price. Not sung in English though and nearly no one has heard of San Marino.

Greece - Beards in kilts - sound like the Greek Smashmouth. Will stand out as being different. A lot will depend on the staging - will they be comedy fun or comedy annoying?

Finland - If Ke$ha came from Helsinki. Poppy enough, but not quite enough going on. Alsosays 'ding dong' in a way that screams 'shit Eurovision'

Serbia - Three girls get lost on their way to a hen night. Another Eurodance song by numbers, file with the rest.

France - In some ways you have to admire France, they keep putting in idiosyncratic songs which are really quite good but entirely out of place at Eurovision. This is a bluesy song, a bit like something Texas might do. I really like it, but it has no chance of winning.

Belarus - If you liked Kiss Kiss by Holly Valance, then this is whatever the Belarus Lidl version of that is. Will make everyone go 'Oh, this is exactly like that Holly Valance song, except nowhere near as good'

Moldova - Big dress, silly hair. People may remember her as 'that bird with the odd hair'. No one will remember the song.

Malta - Has the lyric 'His name is Jeremy, he works in IT'. Warning - this song contains ukelele. Like Mumford and Sons, except worse. Competing with Azerbaijan guy for Biggest Eyebrows award.

Armenia - Written by Tony Iommi out of Black Sabbath! And yet is terrible.

Hungary - Some twee bollocks

Croatia - Like neutered Il Divo.

Austria - Katie Melua hair. I just finished listening to the song ten seconds ago and can't remember it.

Romania - Appear to have sent a castrato. Halfway through it seems to get remixed by Skrillex for 30 seconds. Most comedy one so far, and yet he's doing it completely seriously.

Estonia - Brunette sings unmemorable ballad.

Slovenia - Someone else who has been listening to Skrillex. Ultra-standard Eurodance underneath though.

Israel - Supernanny does Eurovision. Ballad sung in Hebrew, the language least amenable to singing, due to all the rasps at the back of the throat.

Montenegro - Balkan hiphop with yet more Skrillex.

Belgium - More eyebrows, boring

Iceland - Sabretooth from Xmen has a go at singing the world's most boring ballad.

Lithuania - I've got this far, I have to finish the list. This fucker cannot sing at all.

Switzerland - Has some chugga-chugga guitar underneath it, with does make it stand out a bit. Best of the rags so far.

Albania - If you've always wondered 'I wonder what Nickleback would have been like if they were from Tirana' then wonder no more. They'd be worse than Canadian Nickleback.

Spain - Starts with Bagpipes, puzzlingly. If it was sung in English you'd assume it was an Irish entry. It ends up exactly like a Corrs song.

Bulgaria - More bagpipes?!?

Latvia - Prick in a silver suit. Latvia clearly can't afford to host Eurovision.

Cyprus - Dreary shouty lady with a boxer's nose.

Macedonia - Begins as standard dreary song before being momentarily (but only momentarily) enlivened by appearance of large shouty woman.

Greece - Beards in kilts - sound like the Greek Smashmouth.


/thread

 Ahrt

Gets better as it goes on imo :D

Andrew.

Tell me you never watched all that, please?

I did - had to fit it in between counting the money I won from Chompy's Melodifestivalen tip though.

Obv you have more time on your hands.

Worried about the skrillex references.

Maybe the UK should get him to be our entry next year. We roped in a Yank last time we won.

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Bleurgh, deeply unimpressed with Netherlands.

Yeah - needs better staging than that. Also sing in tune love.

This is still bugging me...

"Unlike previous years, the running order will not be decided by the drawing of lots, but instead by the producers, with the aim of making the shows more exciting and ensuring that all contestants have a chance to stand out, preventing entries that are too similar cancelling each other out.[37] The decision elicited mixed reactions from both fans of the contest and participating broadcasters."

Denmark would have to be a massive lay at its current price, just on the off-chance that it might get a single-figure draw, but...

Er, Moldova, where did the English lyrics go please? Lost the Mayan references and everything.

Looking to SF2, I've had a bit on Switzerland to qualify at 2.66 as there's some absolute shite at 1.something. Then went all in on San Marino at 1.4 as I'm sure that is buying money.

Serbia do look like they'd be a lot of fun after a couple of alcopops.

Think those crazy Montenegran spacemen could spring a surprise and qualify here. Some shocking performances tonight.

Moldova to qualify is buying money @ 1.13 though. Don't know how this is still three figs to win the whole shebang. Gonna stomp all over it in match bets.

If I am, then so is Fred. Altho I am not impressed by Chompys ooh and urgs at each of his selections.

Are they all through?

PS. Had a sneaky bet on Norway, as its my new fav place......obv

Ukraine is growing on me - they were as low as 6 at one point so I've had a nibble at 13.

How is my bet on Sweden looking chompy? Think I got in at the recommended price of 12s although it was a while ago so might be bigger

It's eased a touch.

40-1 is defo bigger than 12-1 :(

Don't think I've ever been so far on the wrong side of a ESC bet ever, but faith is retained. Will be topping up before the weekend.

Hearing our boy Sweden again just there after everything else fills me with renewed confidence. I've gone in again at 65.

No idea how Lithuania made it - deaf vote obv strong tonight.

That Netherlands song is really divisive - people either think it's super-amazing or the dullest thing ever. I loved Scott Mills having to pretend he hadn't slagged it off something rotten as the panel all said it was great.

Whatever happens in the final happens, but Sweden is the best song imo. Robin Stjurbjur driffed badly for Melodifestivalen but still crushed. Will be making him my biggest winner ever.

Also, despite tonight's performance, I'm now expecting Netherlands to do well. The performance doesn't actually count for a lot. Azer was not well done on the night and still won a couple of years ago. Netherlands was always one of those that would either do really well or bomb and the fact it's qualified is promising.

Moldova v Belarus match bets @ 10/11 each of two would be pleasing.

Lol. Understatement ftw.

One more bet to add to my portfolio - San Marino to finish top 10 in the final at 4.8.

One other bet to recommend - UK to finish last is 7/1 with Coral (my Coral account was closed). It's truly terrible and no one gives a fuck about Bonnie Tyler.

In a bold move, fuelled by gin and tonic, I have left my staking rules crying and frightened in the corner by unloading over a monkey on Ukraine to finish in the Top 10 at 1.27.

Cash machines only pay out at 1.0 and yet I use those all the time.

I've backed Sweden cos you're the daddy on this stuff but I just can't see it winning. But I'd guess he's the.......errrrrr.......festive type? Ummmmmmm, you know, flamboyant? And I think the pink vote helps a LOT in things like this.
You can get better than even money on it finishing top 10 which I guess you should be smashing into?

I like Holland, it's a little different and I think it can win. That's where I've put most of my money.
I also really like that Moldova song. If it was in English, I would think it had a real chance.

An interesting read

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8910331/my-vision-for-eurovision/

Danes odds on and Sweden drifting by the minute.

Rolledover Moldova are out to 300s. Starting to think I should stay in Saturday nite......

Weaker semi-final confirmed...

Who's this Yankee bird? Like Katie Puckrik without the talent.

It's the more masculine one out of the Scissor Sisters - she's pretty tez. Can't seem to get the right mix of mocking without sneeriness.

Ana Matronic is the bird, remember when Scissor Sisters were pretty big back along. Used to like some of their stuff, and it was always good post club music...

Oh dear, be giving each other foot rubs in a minute.

Betting thread girls.

You have to credit Scissor Sisters for getting away with that name. It was as though no one made the connection when they made it big.

I have literally just got that - never, ever made the connection before.

Malta 1.35 to qualify the bet of the night for me.

Some stretch getting to foot rubs from that?

I was talking about listening to music in a drunken and chemically induced stupor :D

If that's what happens with you and your boys so be it...

Lol

Probably one of the most bizarre 'history' sections in all of wikipedia

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissor_Sisters

Romania to qualify also @ 2.4.

If you're gonna a novelty song make it completely nutso like this one. Oi oi Cezar!

Here goes, my ten to qual are...

Dan Marino
Azerbaiajan
Malta
Greece
Norway
Georgia
Romania
Finland
Switzerland

Plus one other

Iceland a lay @ 1.6
Israel a lay @ 1.5 imo

I just laid Georgia @ 1/11 to qualify.
That Norway is a real runner for the overall, way better than the next 3 in the 'big 5' imo.
I also laid Azerbaijan @1/5 to finish in top 10 overall.

I hadn't intended this but I'm throwing a couple quid here on this, a couple quid on that, it's starting to add up!

Sick tipping skills from me here.

I'm voting UKIP now.

How did that Armenia dross and Kedvashit get through? Crazeballs.

Malta will do well.

Romania get in guru?


Genuine question.

Yussir

Good work sir.

Lovin the 'vision

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I have a couple of quid on Armenia to finish top ten from ages back @ 11/10. It's now 9/1 and rightly so, it's gash. Tony Iommi must be fuming they didn't do that flaming guitar bit that the Albanians did.
I reckon Denmark, Norway or Holland for the outright. Nothing welse stands out for me.
I have Holland and Sweden and have laid Azerbaijan top ten. I might top up a bit of Holland w/o Denmark @ 3/1.
You can get 37/1 Sweden w/o Denmark, Chompy.

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The running order is as follows:
1.France
2.Lithuania
3.Moldova
4.Finland
5.Spain
6.Belgium
7.Estonia
8.Belarus
9.Malta
10.Russia
11.Germany
12.Armenia
13.The Netherlands
14.Romania
15.United Kingdom
16.Sweden
17.Hungary
18.Denmark
19.Iceland
20.Azerbaijan
21.Greece
22.Ukraine
23.Italy
24.Norway
25.Georgia
26.Ireland

Based on that Chomps where is the value in terms of Top10 finish or match bets?

Not seen any match bets yet and most of the good stuff won't be out till tomorrow. Still massively with Sweden, top ten and match bets.

Cheers Bud

Thoughts on Malta Top 10

Quite catchy and historically gone close before?

Sweden got a nice draw, right after Bonnie's ear bashing!

As Morning Line was so sh*t I decided to have a sneaker at the entries

FWIW

All the ladies sound like they are doing the same power ballads, all quite good, but all very samey, and if I didnt know it was fav I would put Denmark in that category.
Of the lot I would probably go for the Russian Girl.
Liked the Moldova girl but as said, needs to be in English

Of the rest, Greek song sounded Greek! Fun

Israel, looked like Nana Mouskouri with her jugs out

Azerbajan- looks like the bloke who sings down my local. Interesting stat, they never been out of Top 8!!

Netherlands-Birds-Chompy, what were you drinking?!

Like Sweden, but no one retained since 1990.



3 vs the field

Germany
Ireland
Russia

Norway ftw
Finland top 3
Spain outside bet for top 10

Scandie winner.

I've seen a lot of good stuff said about the Swedish for this, no idea if it means anything & I've not even seen them myself. Going to back them £5 win and £5 e/w. think they are 200's in some spots

Ewhy are Sweden on the drift?

I'm baffled to the max by the Sweden price. Not worried though, will just keep going in.

Here you go Aaron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUJ0u7ZVaE

Apart from Ireland in 93. Oh, and Ireland in 94. The glory years from 87-96, when we won it 5 times and were 2nd twice.

Looking forward to the final tonight. Shakira did really well the other night for Denmark, though I like Ukraine too.

Having seen most of these before in the semis has given this a very low-key feeling for me.

Either that or I'm all excited out after the ending to Doctor Who.

Finland one was quite fun, although bit of a regression to the 90's.  Spain was f***ing terrible.

Jumped on the Sweden bandwagon btw and been hammering the Top 10 market all day.  Every year I tell myself I won't get too involved in this contest but just can't help myself!

Liked Finland. Anything leading up to a lesbian crescendo gets my vote at 40-1

Richard!

Please, control yourself.

Malta up after this Estonian Belarussian [EDIT, in before Adz] garbage.

It's just a pleasing song, very simple. And although it's early in the draw it's not the worst spot.

Also, if the running order was decided by show producers to give everything a chance, why is all the shite in single figures? Fumming here.

What are you doing here - piss off to your concrete thread. This thread is for cultured connoisseurs of pan-European musicality only.

Thousands were done on Belarus at <30 weeks ago. Pretty sure a tipping line put it up. Gg whoever came up with that idea.

Malta good.Bit original for eastern Europe voters, but good

As The Guardian said, it's like a song from a Match.com advert.

As The Guardian said, it's like a song from a Match.com advert.
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Russia so zzzzzz. Let's all hold hands etc. Try something original ta.

Russia top five certainty imo. Dull but will get votes from the demographic

I was thinking this too. I despise the song but it's 1/3 top 10 which I reckon is giving away money.

Video for it was hilarious. Mixed bag theatre crowd go from ignoring each other to hugging and holding hands in 3 minutes.

Love the presenter's comments regarding the audience.  The dancing queens comment early on was brilliant.

Entries are more meh than usual this year.

As lovely a song as Netherlands is, it's been fucked by the fact noone will remember it after the explosion that is Romania is up next.

Romania is just tooooo good.

Superman 2 baddie camps up

Netherlands is a funeral dirge. Thank God it's finished.

Emperor Ming meets the darkness

Isn't Romania's song just a retread of the Bon Jovi hit in a different language?

Finally, Romania bring Eurovision back to its former glory!

Here we gogogogogo! Crush it Robin!

Remind me again, are we attempting to win this now or just trying to make sure that bottom 10% is actually deserved?

WTF was that Bonnie?

Sorry, I nodded off during the Hungary one. What language was Bonnie Tyler singing in?

I really like Denmark. Sorry, but its the strongest song

It's so gimmicky and repetitive. I think the more I hear it, the more I dislike it. Norway is the best one for me.

Should win.  Would have preferred it if the singer didn't sound like Toyah though!

Fully expecting the lyric 'One Step Beyond' somewhere in the Greek song!

The new Bond theme song, Noooooooooooooooooooooooorway!!!!!

Ireland's singer looks like a slim Dubai!

Dubai Slim. Pool hustling degen

If it's any guide, the one country which has really come in on the machine tonight is Ukraine - 20>11

Ahem!

If we're pre-timing...


Ukraine now 9.8.

Such a stagnant on-the-night market these days. Denmark 125/1 >> 7/2 about 12 years ago. Youtube changed a lot.

I've not really been watching closely but that Katie Boyle has changed, hasn't she?

I'm in a comp and am hoping not to be back for the voting (because I'll only end up enjoying it)

Love the Belarus one.

Its time to vote for the country that supplies your gas

The best bit. Psephology meets politics in a euro-dub LSD version of election night. Love it

Not seen any acts. Here goes:

Russia give 12 points to Ukraine
Lithuania give 12 points to Belarus
Finland give 12 points to Sweden
Romania give 12 points to Bulgaria

And no one gives 12 points to UK

How will I get on?

Excellent half-time show, better than the Super Bowl tbh

Yeah, no unknowns any more.

Odd to think that just two years ago France started 6/4 and finished 15th.

Some bright spark (possibly viewing this thread?) has asked for it to be put on the telly.

Guy next to me just drew my attention to it and said...

"Look at that. Eurovision! Those dancers are dressed as Brazilian footballers"


Literally - literally - genius.

UK will give at least 8 points to Ireland, maybe more.

Ireland will give UK about 2 points.

Zero from Ukraine after 3 - think I'm going to be sick.

Are Chompy's followers getting weighed in?

At Gamblers Anonymous, yes.

Has Fred scooped?

Not unless I have misspelled Denmark - very badly.

Hector stands a chance

Nasty 3 points for Tyler there though.....

on each way?

sweating yet?

I bet £577 on them to finish in the top ten at 1.27 - thinking it was buying money.

Feeling a bit better now.

Also have a bit on UK to finish last at 14/1 - hoping that the Baltic bloc vote gives something to Estonia.

top ten nailed on

UK 3rd bottom, deserved less than that

I'm assuming that, right now, Chompy will be more difficult to find than Madeleine McCann.

Don't understand that.

Chompy is a Eurovision legend, we trust him. Same bloke who said Decaration of War could only drift. Proper legend is he.

I would say thet the top three bottoms were Ukraine, Belarus and Denmark.

Are you lost?

Do you need a responsible adult to show you the way to your designated areas?

Top bottom was Norway.

Really surprised Finland have done so badly - even behind Spain.

After some of the videos I've seen I would never have thought girl on girl action played so badly on the continent.

bloody Ireland

7 points to the UK

Disaster

Just stuck my last £50 on Denmark at 1.04 #lockupthattwoquid

I miss Bosnia-Herzegovina. The voting isn't the same without them.

I have decided that, whilst I will have mad crazy sex with the Norway woman, I will marry the girl from Ukraine.

Meh

Yep, did a chunk.  Had a sweat on Moldova to (nearly) get me out of it but even that died late on!

I really need the Royal Baby to be a girl born between 8th-22nd July to get me out of it now #mymumwillbesoproudofme

Not sure you'll find a church willing to cater for that.

Unless you happen to be able to find cardinal in The Duchess of Malfi.

Edit: #crowbarringsomeculturein

as somebody once said

there is always kenny jackett




oops

OK, kids, post-mortem time. What can we learn for next year?

The clues are there. By the time we get to Eurovision week the value has gone. We need to pick up on this shit earlier.

I expect you all to have bought and thoroughly listened to the Eurovision CD on the day of release next year and contribute to the 45 page goldmine thread that will result.

As for this year, genuine thanks to Chompy for his tip for the Melodifestivalen - that has more than paid for my ineffectual dabbling in the main event this year - a lot of fun has been had.

I just scrolled through all my bets there, not a winner amongst them.
Not only that but I actually laid my flatmate 7/2 on Hungary finishing in the top 10. He said Germany will give them 12 points (which they did!) and they also squeezed into 10th place on the 2nd last round of voting.
Absolute disaster, worst betting result of the year.

Reposting this here, because Tank doesn't wander this way much any more.

"I hope Bonnie Tyler doesn't take this too badly. I hear that every now and then she falls apart..."

Yw sir. Robin winning Melodifestivalen was the highlight of my puntering year so far. Gave it all back on the main event but shit happens. Can't crush it every year.

Discussed Denmark with Paul Jones soon after the entries came out, at which time it was 7/1. A friend of his had told him it was nailed on. We were both pretty meh about it.

The thing I will take away is that the songs which I'd initially dismissed that did well (Denmark, Azerbaijan), when it came to the night, I thought 'actually, this is quite good'.

I certainly had it in my mind that Eurovision was something decided by kneejerk reactions to the first hearing of songs, whereas, on the continent, many many people have heard these songs on the radio/TV for weeks beforehand.

Next year, I need to listen to stuff lots before deciding.

not sure Ireland deserved to be rock bottom

Nah - it was shit and Ireland has no bloc vote to fall back on.

Fair play.

How was the voting weighted? Am I right in saying it was a mix between the phone/mobile votes and esteemed judges from each country?

Should go back to just juries voting.

Public voting means half the field can't win.

Yeah, there was a jury that voted on the dress rehearsal last night (50%) and 50% on the phone votes.

The semifinal results are on the Eurovision site now and they must keep those results tight, because anyone with access to them can win the world.

Finland (who was thought to do well) only scraped in in 9th place. The top 3 in semi 1 were Denmark, Russia, Ukraine and in Semi 2 were Azerbaijan, Greece, Norway. These were the top 6 in the final.

I think it actually works well.

Generally, the best songs finished at the top (except for Chompy's boyfriend).

:)

Semi results were leaked on Greek TV the year Finland won it. Sure we all remember that scandal.

Weirdest thing this week was Denmark being 6/4 to win the whole thing and 7/4 to win their semi. Still can't work that one out.

Who is up for a Blondebash in Copenhagen next year?

I bet on Denmark because it was pretty catchy plus had lots of views on YouTube. Did the same with Lena a few years ago. Easy game eh.

No idea why Finland did so badly. Expected better from that one. Also that Netherlands song was awful - only explanation was that Anouk is already quite popular.

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