Title: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: tight4better on May 16, 2013, 06:49:54 PM So a very annoying situation came up at DTD where I'd moved from a 4 handed 1/1 table to a fuller 1/1 table.
I had approx £360 in £5/£2/£1 chips (brags) so sat with £250 (Max), and the rest in a tray on the rail behind my stack, not on the felt at any point. Was informed by a certain player immediately after sitting down the tray needs removing due to "Club rules", dealer said nothing. Due to the fact I'm lazy and can't be arsed to argue I didn't call floor. I'll add that no table was available for me to put chips on and I was sitting in seat 5 which is probably the most awkward seat to put anything out of your sight that wouldn't be "at risk" as it were. What's the rule? Seems ridiculous for this to actually be the rule but stranger things have happened. For a dealer/player to not notice me adding a huge stack of chips to the table I'd probably be applying for a job as a fucking ninja. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: redsimon on May 16, 2013, 06:54:30 PM Surprised you didn't politely tell the certain player to MYOB. Only Dealer or floor can say what's right or wrong? As to specific situation, man bag or pockets ftw?
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: kinboshi on May 16, 2013, 07:04:42 PM I don't think chips that are not-in-play should be sat in a tray that's anywhere near the table. Either cash them in, chip them up and put them in your pockets (or handbag), or sit with all of them in play. Simples.
Chips that are not in play shouldn't be anywhere near the table itself. As an aside, chips in a tray should never be in play either. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: pokerfan on May 16, 2013, 07:07:33 PM Pretty standard rule afaik.
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: tight4better on May 16, 2013, 07:12:18 PM sit with all of them in play. Simples. If only it were that simple. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: kinboshi on May 16, 2013, 07:23:48 PM sit with all of them in play. Simples. If only it were that simple. What you couldn't cash them out, chip them up or sit with all of them? Surely one of those three is a option open to you? Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: RED-DOG on May 16, 2013, 07:30:00 PM So a very annoying situation came up at DTD where I'd moved from a 4 handed 1/1 table to a fuller 1/1 table. I had approx £360 in £5/£2/£1 chips (brags) so sat with £250 (Max), and the rest in a tray on the rail behind my stack, not on the felt at any point. Was informed by a certain player immediately after sitting down the tray needs removing due to "Club rules", dealer said nothing. Due to the fact I'm lazy and can't be arsed to argue I didn't call floor. I'll add that no table was available for me to put chips on and I was sitting in seat 5 which is probably the most awkward seat to put anything out of your sight that wouldn't be "at risk" as it were. What's the rule? Seems ridiculous for this to actually be the rule but stranger things have happened. For a dealer/player to not notice me adding a huge stack of chips to the table I'd probably be applying for a job as a fucking ninja. Before taking my seat in a cash game at DTD I buy £300 in chips. I usually sit in a 1/1 game with the maximum of £250 leaving £50 for back spare for 'topping up'. These I keep in plain sight, in a rack with a lid (which I was told is fine) and is imo much easier to police than a player with chips in his pocket because he can palm a few extra on to the table any time he likes. I usually stay in the same game unless it goes stale or a seat becomes available on what is obviously a better game. If I do move I always sit at the new table with the maximum allowed, putting any surplus chips into the rack. One night a couple of weeks ago, I went to the cash desk to buy my chips as usual, and a member of staff told me that someone had complained about me moving tables for the purpose of "Locking up a win" This same staff member told me that he would be "monitoring my behaviour." You can imagine my reaction. I asked who had accused me, he refused to say. I asked if the rules could be changed to allow me to sit with all my chips when I move tables. He said "No" I asked what he was going to do after he had "Monitored my behaviour" He said "Nothing" I asked him if he had defended my good name in front of this accuser, or if he had encouraged him to think I was cheating by promising to "Monitor my behaviour" He didn't answer, so I'm assuming the latter. I was so angry about the whole episode that I couldn't actually concentrate to play, I had to go for a walk outside. I'm still absolutely mortified about it. I know it's daft, but I can't get it out of my mind. I don't think I've been back more than twice since it happened. I want to move on now. Perhaps getting it off my chest on here will help me to do that. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: tight4better on May 16, 2013, 07:32:18 PM What you couldn't cash them out I could, seems pointless if I'm going to need chips for a reload though Quote chip them up I could, but I didn't see an issue with having chips on the table and I hate ponies/pinks Quote sit with all of them? ERM EXCUSE ME ARE YOU SITTING WITH MORE THAN 250? Have a guess at which DTD reg I'm impersonating, hint. She's also the villain in the OP and a "well loved" reg. Possible sarcasm ITT. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: tight4better on May 16, 2013, 07:36:43 PM Before taking my seat in a cash game at DTD I buy £300 in chips. I usually sit in a 1/1 game with the maximum of £250 leaving £50 for back spare for 'topping up'. These I keep in plain sight, in a rack with a lid (which I was told is fine) and is imo much easier to police than a player with chips in his pocket because he can palm a few extra on to the table any time he likes Yeah tom this was my argument, with my chips in a closed tray anyone can see if I've added/not. Regarding rest of post, it's not daft at all, I'd also be angry and keen to prove my innocence, if people are worried about ratholing then DTD should enforce a sitdown with minimum whatever you left with, but for some reason won't. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: redsimon on May 16, 2013, 08:05:33 PM So a very annoying situation came up at DTD where I'd moved from a 4 handed 1/1 table to a fuller 1/1 table. I had approx £360 in £5/£2/£1 chips (brags) so sat with £250 (Max), and the rest in a tray on the rail behind my stack, not on the felt at any point. Was informed by a certain player immediately after sitting down the tray needs removing due to "Club rules", dealer said nothing. Due to the fact I'm lazy and can't be arsed to argue I didn't call floor. I'll add that no table was available for me to put chips on and I was sitting in seat 5 which is probably the most awkward seat to put anything out of your sight that wouldn't be "at risk" as it were. What's the rule? Seems ridiculous for this to actually be the rule but stranger things have happened. For a dealer/player to not notice me adding a huge stack of chips to the table I'd probably be applying for a job as a fucking ninja. Before taking my seat in a cash game at DTD I buy £300 in chips. I usually sit in a 1/1 game with the maximum of £250 leaving £50 for back spare for 'topping up'. These I keep in plain sight, in a rack with a lid (which I was told is fine) and is imo much easier to police than a player with chips in his pocket because he can palm a few extra on to the table any time he likes. I usually stay in the same game unless it goes stale or a seat becomes available on what is obviously a better game. If I do move I always sit at the new table with the maximum allowed, putting any surplus chips into the rack. One night a couple of weeks ago, I went to the cash desk to buy my chips as usual, and a member of staff told me that someone had complained about me moving tables for the purpose of "Locking up a win" This same staff member told me that he would be "monitoring my behaviour." You can imagine my reaction. I asked who had accused me, he refused to say. I asked if the rules could be changed to allow me to sit with all my chips when I move tables. He said "No" I asked what he was going to do after he had "Monitored my behaviour" He said "Nothing" I asked him if he had defended my good name in front of this accuser, or if he had encouraged him to think I was cheating by promising to "Monitor my behaviour" He didn't answer, so I'm assuming the latter. I was so angry about the whole episode that I couldn't actually concentrate to play, I had to go for a walk outside. I'm still absolutely mortified about it. I know it's daft, but I can't get it out of my mind. I don't think I've been back more than twice since it happened. I want to move on now. Perhaps getting it off my chest on here will help me to do that. Sounds like theres a few players at DTD with too much time on there hands and nothing better to do than cause dramas? Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: rfgqqabc on May 16, 2013, 08:23:33 PM What you couldn't cash them out I could, seems pointless if I'm going to need chips for a reload though Quote chip them up I could, but I didn't see an issue with having chips on the table and I hate ponies/pinks Quote sit with all of them? ERM EXCUSE ME ARE YOU SITTING WITH MORE THAN 250? Have a guess at which DTD reg I'm impersonating, hint. She's also the villain in the OP and a "well loved" reg. Possible sarcasm ITT. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: kinboshi on May 16, 2013, 08:25:31 PM So a very annoying situation came up at DTD where I'd moved from a 4 handed 1/1 table to a fuller 1/1 table. I had approx £360 in £5/£2/£1 chips (brags) so sat with £250 (Max), and the rest in a tray on the rail behind my stack, not on the felt at any point. Was informed by a certain player immediately after sitting down the tray needs removing due to "Club rules", dealer said nothing. Due to the fact I'm lazy and can't be arsed to argue I didn't call floor. I'll add that no table was available for me to put chips on and I was sitting in seat 5 which is probably the most awkward seat to put anything out of your sight that wouldn't be "at risk" as it were. What's the rule? Seems ridiculous for this to actually be the rule but stranger things have happened. For a dealer/player to not notice me adding a huge stack of chips to the table I'd probably be applying for a job as a fucking ninja. Before taking my seat in a cash game at DTD I buy £300 in chips. I usually sit in a 1/1 game with the maximum of £250 leaving £50 for back spare for 'topping up'. These I keep in plain sight, in a rack with a lid (which I was told is fine) and is imo much easier to police than a player with chips in his pocket because he can palm a few extra on to the table any time he likes. I usually stay in the same game unless it goes stale or a seat becomes available on what is obviously a better game. If I do move I always sit at the new table with the maximum allowed, putting any surplus chips into the rack. One night a couple of weeks ago, I went to the cash desk to buy my chips as usual, and a member of staff told me that someone had complained about me moving tables for the purpose of "Locking up a win" This same staff member told me that he would be "monitoring my behaviour." You can imagine my reaction. I asked who had accused me, he refused to say. I asked if the rules could be changed to allow me to sit with all my chips when I move tables. He said "No" I asked what he was going to do after he had "Monitored my behaviour" He said "Nothing" I asked him if he had defended my good name in front of this accuser, or if he had encouraged him to think I was cheating by promising to "Monitor my behaviour" He didn't answer, so I'm assuming the latter. I was so angry about the whole episode that I couldn't actually concentrate to play, I had to go for a walk outside. I'm still absolutely mortified about it. I know it's daft, but I can't get it out of my mind. I don't think I've been back more than twice since it happened. I want to move on now. Perhaps getting it off my chest on here will help me to do that. Ridiculous. What 'behaviour' was he meant to be monitoring? However, I still think that additional chips should be kept off the rail of the table (even if in a closed tray) - but that's up to the club to decide on the rule. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: cambridgealex on May 16, 2013, 08:47:10 PM What you couldn't cash them out I could, seems pointless if I'm going to need chips for a reload though Quote chip them up I could, but I didn't see an issue with having chips on the table and I hate ponies/pinks Quote sit with all of them? ERM EXCUSE ME ARE YOU SITTING WITH MORE THAN 250? Have a guess at which DTD reg I'm impersonating, hint. She's also the villain in the OP and a "well loved" reg. Possible sarcasm ITT. Oh my, don't beat around the bush Nik ;) Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: LonOhRay on May 16, 2013, 08:56:41 PM Lol, ask dealer if needed or just chip up and put in pocket, nbd
Or make rude comments at the person being a jobsworth to tilt them and stack off lighter Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: CHIPPYMAN on May 16, 2013, 09:29:32 PM sit with all of them in play. Simples. If only it were that simple. NIK U R SUCH A F*****G TWAT . JUST CASH THEM N STOP MOANING LIKE A BITCH !!!! Melissa , u r very liceeeee Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: cambridgealex on May 16, 2013, 09:34:06 PM sit with all of them in play. Simples. If only it were that simple. NIK U R SUCH A F*****G TWAT . JUST CASH THEM N STOP MOANING LIKE A BITCH !!!! Melissa , u r very liceeeee Ahrt ISIT Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: tight4better on May 16, 2013, 09:39:53 PM Lol
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: Boba Fett on May 16, 2013, 09:58:51 PM Dont see the point of chipping them up/cashing them out if you might use them. If theyre not in play in a rack what is the big deal about them being on the table/rail?
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: cambridgealex on May 16, 2013, 10:15:37 PM Dont see the point of chipping them up/cashing them out if you might use them. If theyre not in play in a rack what is the big deal about them being on the table/rail? This Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: millidonk on May 16, 2013, 10:31:00 PM Pockets ftw.
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: Karabiner on May 16, 2013, 10:50:05 PM To avoid any confusion all chips on the table should be in play IMO.
I'm not keen on having some in play and some not. The racks are in play in Vegas and that's how I think it should be. I remember hearing about a forum member who was betting a rack at a time when the mood took him on one Vegas trip not too long ago. Just keep any excess chips in a pocket for emergencies. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: scotty77 on May 16, 2013, 11:49:51 PM About 10 seconds effort to change them up for pinks and blacks.
In fact in all my years of live poker I don't think I've come across anyone who has sat with chips in a rack at the table and they not be in play. Don't see why you would want to leave them on the table. Only gonna create confusion and disruption to the game. Also don't see what was wrong with what the 'villain' in this story did. It is in their interest to keep the game running smooth too and if I was there I'd probably say the same. Too much stuff is let slide in live poker, especially in reggish games, and well done her for speaking up IMO. Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: BorntoBubble on May 17, 2013, 12:12:35 AM When nik is sat at the table I'm happiest when all the chips in his rack/pocket/bank are on the table!
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: paulhouk03 on May 17, 2013, 12:52:21 AM Man bags ftw
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: dakky on May 19, 2013, 07:00:17 PM surely if you move to another table at the same stakes then the same stack should be in play (the one caveat I believe is if the first one broke and you are forced to move)?
Title: Re: Sitting with chips not in play at DTD. Post by: theprawnidentity on May 19, 2013, 07:45:09 PM YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuygRWVwuUI
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