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Title: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Woodsey on June 16, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
I often play MTT's pretty randomly when I've done my deeds for the day. Was just wondering if for example in a $20 F/O or maybe a $5 rb I play where I'm probably an average player if there is any adv/disadvantage to this really?

Sometime you enter when 50-70% of the field has gone, sure if you are a good player there is arguably good reasons to play from the start and a higher likelihood of getting chips. Just wondering if for an average player like me it might be an advantage entering late with maybe 15-20 bb's?

I have no clue, that is why I'm asking  :)


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: theprawnidentity on June 16, 2013, 11:31:58 PM
This would be different for each player.  If you have studied short stacked play in great depth then I'm sure it would be fine.  If you're not so comfortable playing short then probs best to reg something before it starts and play deeper vs a relatively weaker field.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: BorntoBubble on June 16, 2013, 11:33:33 PM
I often play MTT's pretty randomly when I've done my deeds for the day. Was just wondering if for example in a $20 F/O or maybe a $5 rb I play where I'm probably an average player if there is any adv/disadvantage to this really?

Sometime you enter when 50-70% of the field has gone, sure if you are a good player there is arguably good reasons to play from the start and a higher likelihood of getting chips. Just wondering if for an average player like me it might be an advantage entering late with maybe 15-20 bb's?

I have no clue, that is why I'm asking  :)

the shorter the average the less skill needed (in general) its a lot easier to get basic theory of shoving spots down in turbo/short stack events. Plus for a recreational/average player these comps can suite you (and me) as they dont last all night but often on sites like stars can still have $1000s for the winner


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Woodsey on June 16, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
This would be different for each player.  If you have studied short stacked play in great depth then I'm sure it would be fine.  If you're not so comfortable playing short then probs best to reg something before it starts and play deeper vs a relatively weaker field.

I don't study shit mate, Not moved on in the last 3 or 4 years, I'm pretty much an ABC player who plays for fun. Yeah I know I should but other stuff is more interesting in life  :)


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: theprawnidentity on June 16, 2013, 11:38:06 PM
Lol, each to their own. Guess it depends where you feel more comfortable. Like bubble said, the turbo MTTs on stars are usually all over in 3hrs and have a few k up top.

P.s. they're fine if you don't mind flipping a lot :D


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: vegaslover on June 17, 2013, 12:44:30 AM
If you play ABC probs a good idea. You likely to be folding early and regging later, even if only a couple of levels in you get the best of it IMO.
Can usually late reg near the end of entry period, get a double up, and be close to the money. Blinds are big enough that your pushes with big hands get the calls you want for a double.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Amatay on June 17, 2013, 02:24:30 AM
I don't study shit mate

:)

When i start my sessions i often late reg quite abit these days. The first few levels of tourns are boring as fk. Sometimes i just redic late reg with 15 odd bigs with 30-50% of field gg and just push fold. Its gd if u dont wanna spend hrs grinding for rec players like you too imo


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: easypickings on June 17, 2013, 08:17:39 AM
There's a school of thought that says it's a wise move at the WSOP, as you take a late reg seat on a table that of players that have been there since the start, and therefore avoid other late reggers. This would be a small advantage if you believe that the average late regger is a better player.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: kinboshi on June 17, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
I think it can be useful to reg late on some DTD mega sats that are one rebuy, one add-on, and have a large overlay in the number of seats. In those it's about getting to the end of the rebuy period with a healthy stack (doesn't need to be huge) and then surviving through to a seat.  Playing from the start does give you the opportunity to get lucky and get a massive stack, but as it's about getting to a seat rather than trying to win it, the risk/reward ratio has to be considered.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: blueace on June 17, 2013, 10:04:55 AM
So many factors; speed of torn? number of runners? Time available? Level of commitment available? How many tables open?
Taking into account your attitude to the game; as a general rule if i am just playing for fun (most of the time on line) and were talking big torns, I will choose to late reg, If you can commit and are taking the session seriously then reg early and pick up early chips.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Ant040689 on June 17, 2013, 10:06:47 AM
I think it can be useful to reg late on some DTD mega sats that are one rebuy, one add-on, and have a large overlay in the number of seats. In those it's about getting to the end of the rebuy period with a healthy stack (doesn't need to be huge) and then surviving through to a seat.  Playing from the start does give you the opportunity to get lucky and get a massive stack, but as it's about getting to a seat rather than trying to win it, the risk/reward ratio has to be considered.

A slight variation on the above is if the add on is disproportionately bigger than the amount of the rebuys, then late reg just before it closes not double rebuying and just taking the add-on. Especially good if it is one of those super turbo rebuys where you are forced to get through loads of rebuys.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: kinboshi on June 17, 2013, 10:38:09 AM
I think it can be useful to reg late on some DTD mega sats that are one rebuy, one add-on, and have a large overlay in the number of seats. In those it's about getting to the end of the rebuy period with a healthy stack (doesn't need to be huge) and then surviving through to a seat.  Playing from the start does give you the opportunity to get lucky and get a massive stack, but as it's about getting to a seat rather than trying to win it, the risk/reward ratio has to be considered.

A slight variation on the above is if the add on is disproportionately bigger than the amount of the rebuys, then late reg just before it closes not double rebuying and just taking the add-on. Especially good if it is one of those super turbo rebuys where you are forced to get through loads of rebuys.

Good point.  That has been the case with some of the DTD mega sats as well.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: wazz on June 17, 2013, 08:09:02 PM
This would be different for each player.  If you have studied short stacked play in great depth then I'm sure it would be fine.  If you're not so comfortable playing short then probs best to reg something before it starts and play deeper vs a relatively weaker field.

I don't study shit mate, Not moved on in the last 3 or 4 years, I'm pretty much an ABC player who plays for fun. Yeah I know I should but other stuff is more interesting in life  :)

Well then I'd say you're getting better equity in late regging, but you're also getting less bang for your buck. Seeing as you're playing for bang for your buck in the first place, I'd suggest playing from the beginning.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Ironside on June 17, 2013, 08:59:20 PM
when i played regularly a cpl of years back i only ever late regged in the rebuys and did quite well in them
very rarely late reggeed the freezeouts though

with a dbl buyin and an addon you have quite a healthy stack


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: The Squid on June 18, 2013, 05:49:47 AM
I've been reg'ing late for everything bigger than $1500 at the WSOP


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: pleno1 on June 18, 2013, 05:54:01 AM
I've been reg'ing late for everything bigger than $1500 at the WSOP

And how's tables been?


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: pleno1 on June 18, 2013, 05:54:52 AM
Also aren't there big lines of people regging? If you go to buy in late you miss q abit right?


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: The Squid on June 18, 2013, 06:07:53 AM
Diamond card ftw!


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Doobs on June 18, 2013, 11:30:03 AM
I've been reg'ing late for everything bigger than $1500 at the WSOP

Don't get this, surely your edge is bigger with bigger stacks?  Unless you edge is in 20 BB shoving over the top?.

Obviusly would love to be balla enough that I can be happy with just 20 bigs for my $3k.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: david3103 on June 18, 2013, 02:52:33 PM
I've been reg'ing late for everything bigger than $1500 at the WSOP

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Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: wazz on June 18, 2013, 06:36:32 PM
I've been reg'ing late for everything bigger than $1500 at the WSOP

maybe invest in one of these
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http://www.amazon.com/iHome-T110T-Sound-Extra-Alarm/dp/B001ASCVNA

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Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: tight4better on June 18, 2013, 06:40:21 PM
Clearly alarm clocks are bad value.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: The Squid on June 20, 2013, 03:38:57 AM
They reserve a seat for people late reg'ing. The theory is that players that late reg are in general of a higher calibre. So by late reging you fill the open seat at a table, rather than already being sat down and having a good player come in and fill it.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: The Squid on June 20, 2013, 03:39:19 AM
Hope that made sense.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Ironside on June 20, 2013, 04:24:58 AM
Hope that made sense.

lost me

the late reg has too fill an open seat somewhere so if your not a late reg your sat down and if you have an open seat at your table its going too be filled by a late reg who is higher calibre going by your logic


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: pvas2 on June 20, 2013, 06:49:56 AM
Hope that made sense.

lost me

the late reg has too fill an open seat somewhere so if your not a late reg your sat down and if you have an open seat at your table its going too be filled by a late reg who is higher calibre going by your logic

Sort of makes sense. If there are 9 people sat down and you are guaranteed to get a good player as the 10th player then it is better to be that 10th player... not sure it really works out that kuch like that though. Had plenty of worse players sit down as the late reg players.


Title: Re: Any merit to late reg'ing?
Post by: Ironside on June 20, 2013, 03:33:45 PM
Now it makes sence