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Sitting in SB playing 950 straddle is on and the guy on my left has just sat down with about 1100 (40 years old perceived as tight but not particularly good by me).

CO opens to 12 on the 4 straddle, I three bet to 33 from the sb with  Aspades Ahrt, villain next to act peels after a moments thought then the OR folds and we go heads up.

Flop  Td  Jd Ac   Pot 82

I cbet the flop to 42 (I'm aware this is too small and immediately regretted it as the chips hit the felt)
Villain raises to 126....
WWYD?

I'd call. I'd also 3bet much bigger. Closer to 50 than 33.

Well I don't expect him to,ever really r f the flop so I'd wager more chips.

"I,don't believe you, all in"

Agree with 3 bet bigger.  I 3bet the flop to 249, the guy tanked for a year then peeled.

Turn  9d Pot 582 We have roughly 660 back.

Whats our line now?

You have to go with it, I think just b/c is the way. Defo bet flop bigger, defo 3b bigger PF and defo 3b the flop to bigger imo

Always prefer to 3 bet at around pot in these pre flop spots so i'm probably making it 45. Unlikely the Villain peels here with lesser premium holdings and if he was previously getting tricky he may even be more inclined to 4 bet if he's the type of player to think you don't like to play AK/JJ with our bigger raise sizing. As played i'm still going with it. If he's got the straight or the flush it's a cooler but we dominate a lot of his 3 bet peeling range. He'll wake up with 10/10 J/J 10Js A10s AJs AdKx a bunch here.

Pretty blerghhh stack sizings now and after you've already raised to 249 pre we're in a pretty shitty spot to get two more bullets out of our stack size.
I'd probably Jam and get a hero from worse sets / two pairs and scream for a pairup if we're behind. Even if we c bet 290 with 370 behind or something it's always going in (+ we have a shit decision on another Xd card) and if he has  Ad Jx /  Ad 10x / Ad Kx he'll have to call off after picking up additional equity.

Yer, agree 40 pre, b/c flop, but im not folding this on many turns, still think i go with it.

call, whats the turn.

Seems terrible?

As in ppl don't bluff raise these boards and if they do they snap shutdown vs his value combos so many action killing turns.

Think calling really bad just shove. It in and hope he ca.ls (he like.y will)

Agree with this that was my thinking vs his value range but as played what do you do on the turn Pleno?

Ask myself why I didn't shove flop

Really want to jam 700 after he raises to 120?  Anything else helpful??/??/

I don't think he's r f.

I mean you can make it 500 and call. Whatever instinctively you fell will not get hero folds from jto

im thinking about my range, maybe i shouldnt. I want to be able to call w A9 and protect my calls, playing AA as a 3bet shuts out a load of his "percieved" value hands (JT/AJ/AT) and could possibly stop Axdd or other semibluff combos from continuing. Saying something is terrible is pretty out there.

btw plen, this is our equity v his getin range. Im fairly certain if hes decent he can muck TT a decent proportion of the time also. Dont see many Axdd combos hes coldcalling a 3ball with.

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  21,780  games     0.000 secs     4,356,000  games/sec

Board: Ac Jd Td
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    50.973%     50.42%    00.55%             10982          120.00   { AhAs }
Hand 1:    49.027%     48.48%    00.55%             10558          120.00   { JJ-TT, KQs, KQo }

Yeh you're over complicating it. You're ange is missing all jt/aj/at combos

you really don't need to protect your calls in live poker by just flatting AA here.

I'd go £270 now. £249 is ok but please just make it £250. What's the point? It's just irritating!

I agree. It is SO SO SO annoying when the young'uns want to bet £81 or £232, or whatever. So cringeworthy, creates totally the wrong impression/vibe, and slows the game down. Please use common sense and realise how bad it looks... bet in increments of £5 or £10 ffs.

Tell that to Belton please!

I have done. Repeatedly.

If he doesn't listen, and/or wants to make himself look silly... that's up to him lol!

dont get why live games don't use the 'red chip rule' or w/e so you have to bet in increments of 5 or w/e.

mandatory fold given this action, you are nearly 500bb deep!! im getting in the nuts, erm, the nuts and the nuts here.

Using 49 instead of 50 is the same as 99 instead of 100.  Its use is due to the sub-conscious telling us that its a lot cheaper than the other. 99p cone!

Can anyone actually comment on their turn decision or are we just going to get anal about other things!! lol

Great rule for a £1/£1 game.  ::)

You're not playing against yourself..

Think id still call, fun hand. The raw equity matchups in getin i dont think make us much money. They (albeit very rare) bluff and overplayed 2 pair is where we print, i say we keep them in.

Hes never calling with AJ to a pile. 1k is a lot of dough. I mean if he is a huge whale feel free to pile and get in vs JT or KdJs but not vs anyone remotely sane.

Not everyone 1/2 game plays big enough for the £5 rule to be worthwhile. And your basically saying every shop in the western world is wrong.

Shoving turn as played. Really hate your flop size. Just calling is best option imo tho. Don't think he gets it in that wide, I think even TT might fold to a shove. If we want to 3bet make it enough to pile to turn. Or 299.

What? He isn't folding tt lol

Does thread title say 1/2 live or 500nl zoom?

Probs isn't folding AQ

for 1k? Dtd games must be fkin mental.

yeh the 149 as opposed to £150 trick like argos do with there toasters to make you think its cheaper than it is doesnt make any difference in poker games, no need!

it's a phrase, you just bet in terms of rounded numbers/chips. obv in bowl 1/1 games this is what you have to deal with. man up play 2/5 and then you can bet in increments of 5 and use bowl chips to tip.

haha Andy Wayman laying it down "you posting your blinds with my tipping chips you barrrrrys" :D

zomg the people who think 'it's funny to pay in change for a big bet' not as funny as me stabbing you in the face coksuka!!!  Speed the game up ffs.

lil dave ballin outa control...... £150 for a toaster....

cant have any old piece of shit making my toast.

full on toasting derail

(http://www.hartsofstur.com/acatalog/11526-Magimix-Vision-Toaster.gif)

for a cool £160