Title: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 11, 2013, 08:59:02 PM Game is 1/3 in Edinburgh, almost everybody on the table has around 1k or more.
It has reguarly been 1/3/6, and often 1/3/6/12 with the occasional 1/3/6/12/24 and a few times 1/3/6/12/24/48. Villain in the hand is: http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/scarer/ and http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/184/staking-selling-shares-live/scarers-wsop-2012-package-18k-unpaid-backers-thursday-payments-reported-1203354/ I didnt realise the latter until 2 minutes ago lol. Anyway he is pretty drunk, probably 8 beers deep, has fired 2 bullets at GPS and is sitting around 2.3k deep. He has been insanely aggresive and he has just c/raised and showed 2x on kj9 in a 3bet pot and done some other funky stuff. He puts the 12 on. Im in MP and limp Qc Js(dont want to discuss this) , 4 others call including the blinds and straddles and he checks. The flop is Qs Ts 2h They all check to me and there is around 68 in the pot, I bet 50. I had previously been betting big, as its funny these guys still raise to 6 when they are 500 big blinds deep. So pre flop I was raising to £15 and cbetting usually 3/4s pot. Everybody folds and he makes it 175. I have around 1.8k total. I think its likely to very likely that he will bet around 500 on the turn and the same chances that he will pile a lot of rivers. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: Flash92 on October 11, 2013, 09:09:47 PM Not qualified to answer this - I FOLD!
Look forward to reading some of the replies tho... gl :) Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: George2Loose on October 11, 2013, 09:29:19 PM Come back once you've played 3000 hands with him
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 11, 2013, 09:42:51 PM Come back once you've played 3000 hands with him well that wouldnt be near enough to know enough about his c/raising tendancies, but a+ for effort. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: Flash92 on October 11, 2013, 10:07:46 PM Come back once you've played 3000 hands with him well that wouldnt be near enough to know enough about his c/raising tendancies, but a+ for effort. haha. Patrick out of interest what are your thoughts on this hand? Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: BorntoBubble on October 12, 2013, 01:20:12 AM Dont think im folding this agaisnt this player. Not really massively loving live agaisnt someone im going to have to get 1.5K in though by the river. Probably getting more aggressive on the turn if i improve/get more outs etc.
Is he folding to aggression say the turn comes a 9 and you jam over his £500 how likely is he to fold? Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: tight4better on October 12, 2013, 01:56:37 AM Am I in a JB thread? Pre not up for discussion?
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: GreekStein on October 12, 2013, 03:53:02 AM i dont want to discuss flop decision.
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: mondatoo on October 12, 2013, 04:26:09 AM Hate your flop sizing, should've made it 49, using 1 x 20 chip, 1 x 10 chip 2 x 5 chip 5 x 1 chip and 8 x .50 chips.
As we've completely mangled the hand we now have to keep clicking the call button vs this abs hero of the game. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 12, 2013, 09:29:45 AM sigh. actually have 3 v interesting hands from this weekend too :(
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: GreekStein on October 12, 2013, 11:00:16 AM sigh. actually have 3 v interesting hands from this weekend too :( thats a shame why don't you want to share discussion about pre flop? Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 12, 2013, 11:02:40 AM There was a few things, one of them was that i wanted to keep SPR low. The main one though that there was 2 guys who would 3bet over 50% of opens, especially from me and another guy but they would limp if we limped. At this time folding was better than raising, but ofc i would raise here almost always as std.
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: youthnkzR on October 12, 2013, 11:42:16 AM fold. may be drunk but doubt hes fucking about that much in a limped pot here.
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: SuuPRlim on October 12, 2013, 01:20:13 PM like pre-flop if im honest.
Just get it in imo, make it £400 Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: mondatoo on October 12, 2013, 01:20:29 PM sigh. actually have 3 v interesting hands from this weekend too :( You don't know I was joking ? Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: AlexMartin on October 12, 2013, 02:29:33 PM whats the turn?
im not a fan of pre but im guessing your reasons are fine. prefer limping w axs and suited connies if thats the game. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: Honeybadger on October 12, 2013, 02:41:00 PM Trivial squirm ainec
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 12, 2013, 04:17:46 PM fold. may be drunk but doubt hes fucking about that much in a limped pot here. nah he was definitely full of shit a lot. He was drunk and saw me as a tight guy who was deep and not wanting to play very big pots so he def capable of putting pressure on and was spazzy in lots of pots. Trivial squirm ainec what does it mean whats the turn? im not a fan of pre but im guessing your reasons are fine. prefer limping w axs and suited connies if thats the game. agree too and would raise here 99% of the time. i folded flop. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: Skippy on October 12, 2013, 06:48:59 PM There was a few things, one of them was that i wanted to keep SPR low. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You're trying to keep SPR low, but then you hit top pair on the flop and want to fold because you fear reverse implied odds and are don't want to have to stick in a bazillion bb to find out whether he is bluffing or not. You'd be much better off with a shorter SPR, surely. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: Skippy on October 12, 2013, 06:50:55 PM This is a lot like this hand in reverse: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=62348.0
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: rfgqqabc on October 14, 2013, 06:36:34 PM Fold pre, fold now. So hard to continue, better times for it. Not happy tho
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 14, 2013, 10:39:28 PM Fold pre, fold now. So hard to continue, better times for it. Not happy tho Well I, happy to limp fold in the chances tht I smash any flop and get 1 of 7 guys to give me 1.8k Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2013, 12:51:54 PM I genuinely would have just one with this.
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 15, 2013, 12:52:55 PM just one what?
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2013, 01:03:56 PM sorry...
I genuinely would have just gone with this. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: mondatoo on October 15, 2013, 01:14:18 PM sorry... I genuinely would have just gone with this. Why do you think 3b flop is better than peeling when we have a really nitty image ? Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: Nit Tendencies on October 16, 2013, 02:06:07 PM Very surprised that anyone is saying fold. I also like preflop, I would still have raised but reasons seem logical and I do sometimes mix in limps in these super aggro live games.
Drunk guy in a limped pot, neither of you can have TT/QQ/AQ/overpairs, so just call/call on most rundowns. Play cautiously on spade runouts and some co-ordinated cards but I'm pretty happy just calling down. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: SuuPRlim on October 16, 2013, 05:23:22 PM sorry... I genuinely would have just gone with this. Why do you think 3b flop is better than peeling when we have a really nitty image ? Not saying 3bet is better than peeling, I'm not entirely convinced either way but I'd be weighing my options up OTF and fold wouldn't be one of them. I guess calling and maybe going all in on the turn is another pretty good option as we shut all equity out when we ship the turn and once in a blue moon he might even fold better. Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 16, 2013, 05:31:24 PM how about folding and waiting for aces?
Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: SuuPRlim on October 16, 2013, 06:30:07 PM how about folding and waiting for aces? just to lose a big pot or win a small one? I'm hanging on for the 9c 7c Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: pleno1 on October 16, 2013, 06:49:26 PM ha well i did get in thousands with
9c 7c Qc Td 8s 5d on 8h 5c 6c against 4c 2c 2h 3d 9d 7d and despite running it multiple times only came out on top once! Title: Re: pressure, woah Post by: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2013, 01:16:50 PM Perhaps 6O just not your game mate, I'd have won that all 3 times ;-)
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