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Title: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 11, 2013, 08:59:02 PM
Game is 1/3 in Edinburgh, almost everybody on the table has around 1k or more.

It has reguarly been 1/3/6, and often 1/3/6/12 with the occasional 1/3/6/12/24 and a few times 1/3/6/12/24/48.

Villain in the hand is: http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/scarer/  and http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/184/staking-selling-shares-live/scarers-wsop-2012-package-18k-unpaid-backers-thursday-payments-reported-1203354/  I didnt realise the latter until 2 minutes ago lol.

Anyway he is pretty drunk, probably 8 beers deep, has fired 2 bullets at GPS and is sitting around 2.3k deep. He has been insanely aggresive and he has just c/raised and showed 2x on kj9 in a 3bet pot and done some other funky stuff.

He puts the 12 on.

Im in MP and limp  Qc Js(dont want to discuss this) , 4 others call including the blinds and straddles and he checks.

The flop is  Qs Ts 2h

They all check to me and there is around 68 in the pot, I bet 50.

I had previously been betting big, as its funny these guys still raise to 6 when they are 500 big blinds deep. So pre flop I was raising to £15 and cbetting usually 3/4s pot.

Everybody folds and he makes it 175.

I have around 1.8k total.


I think its likely to very likely that he will bet around 500 on the turn and the same chances that he will pile a lot of rivers.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: Flash92 on October 11, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
Not qualified to answer this - I FOLD!

Look forward to reading some of the replies tho...

gl :)


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: George2Loose on October 11, 2013, 09:29:19 PM
Come back once you've played 3000 hands with him


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 11, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Come back once you've played 3000 hands with him

well that wouldnt be near enough to know enough about his c/raising tendancies, but a+ for effort.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: Flash92 on October 11, 2013, 10:07:46 PM
Come back once you've played 3000 hands with him

well that wouldnt be near enough to know enough about his c/raising tendancies, but a+ for effort.


haha.

Patrick out of interest what are your thoughts on this hand?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 12, 2013, 01:20:12 AM
Dont think im folding this agaisnt this player. Not really massively loving live agaisnt someone im going to have to get 1.5K in though by the river. Probably getting more aggressive on the turn if i improve/get more outs etc.

Is he folding to aggression say the turn comes a 9 and you jam over his £500 how likely is he to fold?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: tight4better on October 12, 2013, 01:56:37 AM
Am I in a JB thread? Pre not up for discussion?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: GreekStein on October 12, 2013, 03:53:02 AM
i dont want to discuss flop decision.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: mondatoo on October 12, 2013, 04:26:09 AM
Hate your flop sizing, should've made it 49, using 1 x 20 chip, 1 x 10 chip 2 x 5 chip 5 x 1 chip and 8 x .50 chips.

As we've completely mangled the hand we now have to keep clicking the call button vs this abs hero of the game.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 12, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
sigh. actually have 3 v interesting hands from this weekend too :(


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: GreekStein on October 12, 2013, 11:00:16 AM
sigh. actually have 3 v interesting hands from this weekend too :(

thats a shame

why don't you want to share discussion about pre flop?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 12, 2013, 11:02:40 AM
There was a few things, one of them was that i wanted to keep SPR low. The main one though that there was 2 guys who would 3bet over 50% of opens, especially from me and another guy but they would limp if we limped. At this time folding was better than raising, but ofc i would raise here almost always as std.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: youthnkzR on October 12, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
fold. may be drunk but doubt hes fucking about that much in a limped pot here.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 12, 2013, 01:20:13 PM
like pre-flop if im honest.

Just get it in imo, make it £400


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: mondatoo on October 12, 2013, 01:20:29 PM
sigh. actually have 3 v interesting hands from this weekend too :(

You don't know I was joking ?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: AlexMartin on October 12, 2013, 02:29:33 PM
whats the turn?

im not a fan of pre but im guessing your reasons are fine. prefer limping w axs and suited connies if thats the game.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: Honeybadger on October 12, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Trivial squirm ainec


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 12, 2013, 04:17:46 PM
fold. may be drunk but doubt hes fucking about that much in a limped pot here.

nah he was definitely full of shit a lot.


He was drunk and saw me as a tight guy who was deep and not wanting to play very big pots so he def capable of putting pressure on and was spazzy in lots of pots.


Trivial squirm ainec

what does it mean


whats the turn?

im not a fan of pre but im guessing your reasons are fine. prefer limping w axs and suited connies if thats the game.

agree too and would raise here 99% of the time.

i folded flop.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: Skippy on October 12, 2013, 06:48:59 PM
There was a few things, one of them was that i wanted to keep SPR low.

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You're trying to keep SPR low, but then you hit top pair on the flop and want to fold because you fear reverse implied odds and are don't want to have to stick in a bazillion bb to find out whether he is bluffing or not.

You'd be much better off with a shorter SPR, surely.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: Skippy on October 12, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
This is a lot like this hand in reverse: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=62348.0


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: rfgqqabc on October 14, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
Fold pre, fold now. So hard to continue, better times for it. Not happy tho


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 14, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
Fold pre, fold now. So hard to continue, better times for it. Not happy tho

Well I, happy to limp fold in the chances tht I smash any flop and get 1 of 7 guys to give me 1.8k


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
I genuinely would have just one with this.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 15, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
just one what?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 15, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
sorry...

I genuinely would have just gone with this.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: mondatoo on October 15, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
sorry...

I genuinely would have just gone with this.

Why do you think 3b flop is better than peeling when we have a really nitty image ?



Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: Nit Tendencies on October 16, 2013, 02:06:07 PM
Very surprised that anyone is saying fold. I also like preflop, I would still have raised but reasons seem logical and I do sometimes mix in limps in these super aggro live games.

Drunk guy in a limped pot, neither of you can have TT/QQ/AQ/overpairs, so just call/call on most rundowns.

Play cautiously on spade runouts and some co-ordinated cards but I'm pretty happy just calling down.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 16, 2013, 05:23:22 PM
sorry...

I genuinely would have just gone with this.

Why do you think 3b flop is better than peeling when we have a really nitty image ?



Not saying 3bet is better than peeling, I'm not entirely convinced either way but I'd be weighing my options up OTF and fold wouldn't be one of them.

I guess calling and maybe going all in on the turn is another pretty good option as we shut all equity out when we ship the turn and once in a blue moon he might even fold better.


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 16, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
how about folding and waiting for aces?


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 16, 2013, 06:30:07 PM
how about folding and waiting for aces?

just to lose a big pot or win a small one? I'm hanging on for the  9c  7c


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: pleno1 on October 16, 2013, 06:49:26 PM
ha well i did get in thousands with


 9c 7c Qc Td 8s 5d   on  8h 5c 6c against  4c 2c 2h 3d 9d 7d and despite running it multiple times only came out on top once!


Title: Re: pressure, woah
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2013, 01:16:50 PM
Perhaps 6O just not your game mate, I'd have won that  all 3 times ;-)