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Title: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: jjandellis on November 29, 2013, 11:40:16 AM So now pick 'the best' Right Back to go to the Blonde squad.
The top two voted players will get on the plane! Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: celtic on November 29, 2013, 11:41:26 AM No paul Parker?
Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Tal on November 29, 2013, 11:45:32 AM Glenn Johnson ???
Was there one in the 1910s I've forgotten? Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2013, 11:47:11 AM Mark Wright has done a lot since TOWIE ;D
Wasn't he a centre back? Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: TightEnd on November 29, 2013, 11:48:43 AM Mark Wright was never a right back, at any club or Internationally. What is he doing in the list?
There is also likely to be a significant bias towards players that people remember in the voting. I know who is clearly best, but no one will haver seen him to vote for him! Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: david3103 on November 29, 2013, 12:36:06 PM Mark Wright was never a right back, at any club or Internationally. What is he doing in the list? There is also likely to be a significant bias towards players that people remember in the voting. I know who is clearly best, but no one will haver seen him to vote for him! Some of us are old enough to remember George Cohen but even I never saw Don Howe, Sir H'Alf, Bob Crompton or the man 'who I call' Jimmy Armfield. Pretty sure I know who Dad would have chosen though. Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Royal Flush on November 29, 2013, 07:22:29 PM Do you mean best or do you mean who had the edge in their time?
Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: aaron1867 on November 30, 2013, 12:24:30 AM Glen Johnson? sigh
Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Royal Flush on November 30, 2013, 01:43:12 AM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years
Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: david3103 on November 30, 2013, 08:14:03 AM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: The Camel on November 30, 2013, 08:22:39 AM Gary Stevens???????????????????????????????????????????????????
He wouldn't be in the running for Portsmouth's best right back. Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Royal Flush on November 30, 2013, 02:24:16 PM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Its gone from being a bit of a knock about to a multi billion pound sport, as such players standards and professionalism standards have improved somewhat. Can't think of a sport where the top from 20 years ago could be top today outside of maybe boxing (and of course the non athletic sports) Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: david3103 on November 30, 2013, 04:32:32 PM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Its gone from being a bit of a knock about to a multi billion pound sport, as such players standards and professionalism standards have improved somewhat. Can't think of a sport where the top from 20 years ago could be top today outside of maybe boxing (and of course the non athletic sports) Fitness maybe, but do you think the young Cruyff would struggle today technically? Or Maradona? Or Charlton (R obviously), Best, Law, Peters. So much mediocrity in the PL these days masquerading as 'World Class' many of whom wouldn't get into the teams of 20 or more years ago even with the advance in fitness and such. Giggs won a PL medal as an integral part of the 92/93 team, and then won another, 20 years on. Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Marky147 on November 30, 2013, 04:47:31 PM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Its gone from being a bit of a knock about to a multi billion pound sport, as such players standards and professionalism standards have improved somewhat. Can't think of a sport where the top from 20 years ago could be top today outside of maybe boxing (and of course the non athletic sports) Fitness maybe, but do you think the young Cruyff would struggle today technically? Or Maradona? Or Charlton (R obviously), Best, Law, Peters. So much mediocrity in the PL these days masquerading as 'World Class' many of whom wouldn't get into the teams of 20 or more years ago even with the advance in fitness and such. Giggs won a PL medal as an integral part of the 92/93 team, and then won another, 20 years on. I could be wrong, but I think the difference between 1993 and 2013 is substantially less than that between 70s and 90s. Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: david3103 on November 30, 2013, 05:44:43 PM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Its gone from being a bit of a knock about to a multi billion pound sport, as such players standards and professionalism standards have improved somewhat. Can't think of a sport where the top from 20 years ago could be top today outside of maybe boxing (and of course the non athletic sports) Fitness maybe, but do you think the young Cruyff would struggle today technically? Or Maradona? Or Charlton (R obviously), Best, Law, Peters. So much mediocrity in the PL these days masquerading as 'World Class' many of whom wouldn't get into the teams of 20 or more years ago even with the advance in fitness and such. Giggs won a PL medal as an integral part of the 92/93 team, and then won another, 20 years on. I could be wrong, but I think the difference between 1993 and 2013 is substantially less than that between 70s and 90s. You're probably right, but that wasn't the issue I was addressing with Flushy. Although I still argue that Cruyff et al would hold their own today Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2013, 12:38:27 AM No "Chopper" Harris or Peter Storey :(
Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2013, 04:27:15 AM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Its gone from being a bit of a knock about to a multi billion pound sport, as such players standards and professionalism standards have improved somewhat. Can't think of a sport where the top from 20 years ago could be top today outside of maybe boxing (and of course the non athletic sports) Fitness maybe, but do you think the young Cruyff would struggle today technically? Or Maradona? Or Charlton (R obviously), Best, Law, Peters. So much mediocrity in the PL these days masquerading as 'World Class' many of whom wouldn't get into the teams of 20 or more years ago even with the advance in fitness and such. Giggs won a PL medal as an integral part of the 92/93 team, and then won another, 20 years on. I could be wrong, but I think the difference between 1993 and 2013 is substantially less than that between 70s and 90s. You're probably right, but that wasn't the issue I was addressing with Flushy. Although I still argue that Cruyff et al would hold their own today I possibly misunderstood what you meant by the line about Giggs at the end then. Still, I remember some friends of mine went on a tour of Anfield about 10 years ago. Emlyn Hughes happened to be there, so they got chatting for a while, and this subject came up. When they asked how he thought the 'Liverpool team of the 80s' than Hansen referred to on MOTD would get on in the present day. He said that they wouldn't win a point, and even the teams at the bottom of the league would run rings around them. Title: Re: Blonde Greatest XI (Right Back) Post by: david3103 on December 06, 2013, 12:31:31 PM Well if best we can snap right off anyone who played before the last 20 years Because? Its gone from being a bit of a knock about to a multi billion pound sport, as such players standards and professionalism standards have improved somewhat. Can't think of a sport where the top from 20 years ago could be top today outside of maybe boxing (and of course the non athletic sports) Fitness maybe, but do you think the young Cruyff would struggle today technically? Or Maradona? Or Charlton (R obviously), Best, Law, Peters. So much mediocrity in the PL these days masquerading as 'World Class' many of whom wouldn't get into the teams of 20 or more years ago even with the advance in fitness and such. Giggs won a PL medal as an integral part of the 92/93 team, and then won another, 20 years on. I could be wrong, but I think the difference between 1993 and 2013 is substantially less than that between 70s and 90s. You're probably right, but that wasn't the issue I was addressing with Flushy. Although I still argue that Cruyff et al would hold their own today I possibly misunderstood what you meant by the line about Giggs at the end then. Still, I remember some friends of mine went on a tour of Anfield about 10 years ago. Emlyn Hughes happened to be there, so they got chatting for a while, and this subject came up. When they asked how he thought the 'Liverpool team of the 80s' than Hansen referred to on MOTD would get on in the present day. He said that they wouldn't win a point, and even the teams at the bottom of the league would run rings around them. After a brief pause, he added, "mind you, we're all in our fifties and sixties now" fyp |