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10,300€ ept highroller

My image is tight yet good I expect. Both villains may know I play 6max cash for a living I've played no pots of note with either. I have 52k. I have previously 5bet a cold 4bet but didn't go,to showdown, I haven't  flat any 3bets thus far.

Villain 1 is uk reg, he plays cash in London I think but no idea who he actually is.

Villain 2 is amadi_17 wsope champion, 19 year old Spanish reg


Blinds 100/200/25 were playing 7 handed at this point

I raise cut off to 575 with 7d 5d

Villain 1 calls button

Villain 2 calls big blind


Flop is Kd 7c Kh

I cbet 775

Villain 1 calls quickly
Villain 2 calls relatively quickly


Turn is 2s


I check
Villain 1 bets 1900
Villain 2 makes it 5200

I make it 16300


- at this point I'm pretty sure both players have Kx
- villain 1 wouldn't bet turn when villain 2 has kx almost always after the flop overcall
- villain 2 I assume has ak here almost always, semi often kq as he will expect button to,generally 3bet ak and v occasionally k2/k7
- both players will realize that I know they have kx minimum


Ill post results after thoughts in the thread.

Wahowzers!

This is high rolling at its finest, i'll start by saying wtf..

So you're saying your perceived range of both villains is three kings, i think this is by ultimately the hardest thing to make sense of myself.

Anyway it is sick to even contemplate 3b turn what makes you think you have FE?
 

Dwan vs Greenstein vs Eastgate

Never pulled it off myself, but don't think it would ever work on .fr.   Great move here.

Even then only one of them had a deuce!

50k starting?

I mean Amadi can't really have much else other than AK, K7s, 77 and air check raising turn when vill1 can only really bet a K (he'd obviously know this too which makes his range wider). We block his range that will be happy to play for stacks.

My tiny mind is reeling from this.

You are repping pocket sevens, and only pocket sevens?

Sick if it worked, can't ever see it working in the games I play where villains say "oooh I has three kings I callllllll"

Would be kind of amusing if the both held a 7 and were both repping the 7s over kings house hard.

i dont know mate. If ever there was a time to make this play this is it, but i don't know if i think its a good play or not, repping so thin. idk

Why? You've invested 575 + 775 vs one opponent who you've no idea who he is and another (its v possible hes just cba OI occasionally and goes with it).

Just fold lol no need to mess about you've got 250bbs to start the hand in a 10k euro event where not all the field are gonna be sickos (a good % will but not all). I mean it probably works a lot but should want to preserve your edge and stack (better spots) > the times it works.

yeah i kinda meant to say this +1

Pretty much exactly this

All that needs to happen for this to be a pretty big disaster is for one of them to decide that they don't believe that you would 3b 77 here so they're gunna flick in the AK. The margin for error is just too small here imo, they don't have to get sticky very often for us to be dumping a ton of equity and we don't even know if unidentified UK live cash reg is any good and would actually pull the trigger on folding AK. He'd think about it for sure, but I can't be so sure that they'd actually fold.

Whats the plan if called and we get a non A, Q, 7, 2 river?

I folded btw. Think folding is a mistake now though :( think 3bn is so good was kinda mad at myself for folding just because its a 10k but it is so good because it is a 10k

I think v1 has to fold ak after c/r and flop 3bet I mean ofc he may not but I think like 99% he will

I think it's worse in a 10k highroller than in a 10k main, can reenter and generally no one folds in these.

def think you took the right option by folding.

Suuuuper high variance play vs one guy you don't really know and a teenager who's got the lot. You've previously 5bet and now you wanna take them BOTH off a king? think it's all just a bit too ambitious and folding is best.

Yeah I agree with being better in a 10k main rather than re-entry.

I just mean I have 1 guaranteed fold on the button my sizing means that v2 has to decide an all in basically on the turn and he knows I know he definitely has kq minimum. I think it's the nut spot. High variance? Perhaps but I think its very good.

Nvm though :)

surely you had enough time at the table to come to this conclusion and actually make the play.

It's not the first time I've regretted a decision after a tournament and it won't be the last time either. Tried to lot in here and hsmtt for people to change my mind regarding it but I think way too many people think villain 1 will continue with kq here which is kinda ridiculous IMO.

It's all about villain 2 and how he responds with ak IMO being the deciding factor

Can he ever have AK here though looking at pre flop action?

Yeh close to 100% of time

went to showdown?

villain 2 had AK villain 1 had kj

there is no way folding 57 on KK72 vs a LOT of action can ever be a mistake.

I'll stay out if this one on the basis that I have no experience at this buy in level or standard if field, this sort of move would seem crazy in anything I've played as the guy with AK would feel like he's trapped you both, not that hes in a coffin.

flat and jam when checked to probably looks stronger

How much did villain 1 & 2 have left behind after the check/raise?

Would you have pulled the trigger on a TV table?

Think this is a sicko line but as its a HR it gets through alot more X than say a 1k reg event. folding is deffo not a mistake ever IMO

Are you trying to clock Poker?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clocked (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clocked)

I think that I agree with the nay-sayers. Flat and jam river is really cool, and I think works a much higher % of the time than turn 3bet.

kind of a similar hand

PokerStars Hand #114258221197: Tournament #887464011, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2014/04/03 21:41:09 CET [2014/04/03 15:41:09 ET]
Table '887464011 17' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: pads1161 (90261 in chips)
Seat 3: salaliitto (46967 in chips)
Seat 4: SHIPP ITT (78765 in chips)
Seat 5: StrungOut1 (82413 in chips)
Seat 6: capotinha (103328 in chips)
pads1161: posts the ante 160
salaliitto: posts the ante 160
SHIPP ITT: posts the ante 160
StrungOut1: posts the ante 160
capotinha: posts the ante 160
pads1161: posts small blind 400
salaliitto: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [Qh Th]
SHIPP ITT: raises 920 to 1720
StrungOut1: folds
capotinha: calls 1720
pads1161: calls 1320
salaliitto: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4d 4s]
pads1161: checks
SHIPP ITT: bets 2920
capotinha: calls 2920
pads1161: calls 2920
*** TURN *** [Qc 4d 4s] [9d]
pads1161: checks
SHIPP ITT: checks
capotinha: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 4d 4s 9d] [7d]
pads1161: bets 32800
SHIPP ITT: folds
capotinha: folds
Uncalled bet (32800) returned to pads1161
pads1161 collected 15520 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 15520 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 4d 4s 9d 7d]
Seat 2: pads1161 (small blind) collected (15520)
Seat 3: salaliitto (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: SHIPP ITT folded on the River
Seat 5: StrungOut1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: capotinha (button) folded on the River

vnh

Is that similar in the sense that you are ripping pretty much only QQ?

You would 3bet the SB quite a bit 6 handed with QQ right ?