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2 away from the bubble! I'm not bothered about the jump in money, just want to give myself a shot at winning it...

Is this the right pass? I know i am getting a caller, but easily could get 2! have to admit did'nt like the first guys raise because i was'nt sure what hand he would raise that amount with.

Table "£10K THURSDAY 1767535 - 2" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Meleth (31795 in chips)
Seat 3: Money_man (16455 in chips)
Seat 5: Azimut (14115 in chips)
Seat 7: cheebeee (187881 in chips)
Seat 9: Wynwyn (38751.50 in chips)
Seat 10: Josie1994 (23054 in chips)
cheebeee: posts the ante 400
Wynwyn: posts the ante 400
Josie1994: posts the ante 400
Meleth: posts the ante 400
Money_man: posts the ante 400
Azimut: posts the ante 400
cheebeee: posts small blind 1500
Wynwyn: posts big blind 3000
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Money_man [7s 7c]
Josie1994: folds
Meleth: raises to 9000
Money_man: folds
Azimut: folds
cheebeee: raises to 187481 and is all-in
Wynwyn: folds
Meleth: is all-in 22395
Returned uncalled bets 156,086 to cheebeee
----- FLOP ----- [4s 3s 5h]
----- TURN ----- [4s 3s 5h][3h]
----- RIVER ----- [4s 3s 5h 3h][Jh]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
cheebeee: shows [Ah Qd] (A Pair of Threes, Ace high)
Meleth: shows [Td Ks] (A Pair of Threes, King high)
cheebeee collects 68190 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 68190 Main pot 68190 Rake 0
Board [4s 3s 5h 3h Jh]
Seat 3: Money_man folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Azimut (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: cheebeee (small blind) showed [Ah Qd] and won (68190) with A Pair of Threes, Ace high
Seat 9: Wynwyn (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Josie1994 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

yeah I fold too

Fold. You didnt have enough chips to get him off the hand, which he shown he was going all the way with his hand anyway.
I would want to be opening the raise not calling it with 77 with your chip stack

Yeah i thought i was prob ahead but no chance of getting him to pass... so would rather push in next couple of hands where i may not get a caller!

Two class players, so it must be right somewhere between us!

Cheers

Ian

Folding or all-in are both perfectly good plays.  I'd personally have gone all in here due to my low chipstack as if I don't before the blinds go through me then I become an auto-call and lose any folding equity.  I don't shy away from 50/50's on a final table as the payouts are so top heavy.

definite fold imo

shouldnt be calling an all in here at this stage whenat best you are 50-50 heads up - even less as there were 3 of u in the end in the pot (although only 1 when it came round to you)

Got to wait for another point when you are pushing and you have some fold equity.

What a mess of it that meleth made - to lose all 30,000 of your chips on a KToff - terrible play. 

I know he has done the traditional 3 times BB raise but i think when blinds are this big that you dont need to bet that big to pick up blinds.  Anything between 2 and 2.5 should still do the trick (and avoid callers) and if you then get re-rasied you will not be as committed as he was in this scenario

Good fold

Automatic all in for me based on your stack in relation to the blinds. I've seen your all in in worse spots ian so i am surprised you pass here.

Yes i have defo pushed with worse... but i am the first raiser in those spots!

This one i am guaranteed one caller and the other stacks can call aswell.

Of course you would rather be first in but you are about to lose a 3rd of your stack to the blinds with odds against you picking up a better hand.

You are a far more succesful player than me so i have no doubt you made the right decision but for me i'm all in.

But i would rather push allin with j9 say the next hand when i can still make people fold!

Thing about the 77 is that i am 50/50 at best with no chance of making the guy pass, if we both had a big stack i would probably raise him! As i can make him pass better hands than me...

I do think its marginal either way, i would just like peoples reasoning either way.

Cheers

Ian

FOLD works for me

Maybe if you did something about your hair it would help? Gain some respect, like......

Constructive critcism only please!!!!

You even had my mum saying that i need a hair cut... maybe one like the respectiable old fella on the show! I said "what, Bleached blonde comb over..."

I may have to play the "Tikay" tourney, i mean you have now seen what hands i pass imagine what i'm playing! and a guaranteed $100...

absolutely - if you are going to be playing marginal hands then you want some fold equity.

I certainly would rather raise with J9 than call with 77 at this stage

super borderline this one. Completely agree that 1st in vig is crucial, but only 2 hands to go til blinds hit you - what are the chances of picking up something as good as J9 in 2 hands? I really don't know. If the blinds were 1 spot closer I say definitely stick it in, if they are 1 further away I say definitely fold. Here is superclose for me. Personally I think I probably take my shot with my 7's here and hope to get headsup with them.

The point here, i think, is that you want to have the best chance of winning this tourney.

This leaves two options, at this point,

1) push with the 7's and double through or

2) make all in moves the next two hands in a row, regardless of your holding

If successful, both options would double you up before the bb comes to you. I cant really see any other way of getting back into a winning position in this tourney

The 7's. The chances of a bigger pair out there, 6 handed, is relatively low so theres a good chance that if  you push here you will be 50/50. Also theres a good chance the bigstack would leave you two alone to fight it out.(although he will call with a hand)

I think your stack is now so low, compared to the chip leader, that the all in moves are not likely to succeed, the bigstack is going to be behind you for the next 2 hands and his calling requirements will be very low, so you are most likely going to be around 40% - 60%, if you push next hand or the one after.

So on balance, its probably pushing with the 7's here that will give you the best chance of wining the tourney. Win this one and you can still use the next 2 hands to increase your stack and your position in the tourney.

If however, I just wanted to do the best i could, and place, I pass here.