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Title: Land based casino question
Post by: Hinchlt on December 02, 2014, 12:20:32 PM
I have no idea where to post this so apologies blonde!

I've only gone to casino's to play cash/bowls with physical cash.

How does buying in/leaving work when you buy chips with debit card?

i assume it's a simple transaction at the cage?

Also, how would this work if I want to use a skrill or neteller card? Just the same?

I'm pretty sure I can buy chips in the casino with my net+ card, given that its a mastercard- but can i cash out at the end of my cash game session with it, and put the money on withdrawal?

Cheers


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: TightEnd on December 02, 2014, 01:58:47 PM
Hi, i'm not sure of the answer

can anyone help?

(from memory, use any card to buy chips but paid out in cash, but that may be out-dated!)


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: pokerplayingfarmer on December 02, 2014, 02:54:03 PM
I personally have not seen a cash out done on a card, nearly always cash, or cheques aren't uncommon if it's a decent amount.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Rexas on December 02, 2014, 02:57:46 PM
Hi, i'm not sure of the answer

can anyone help?

(from memory, use any card to buy chips but paid out in cash, but that may be out-dated!)

Was always this, although it's been a while since I've had any money on a card or cashed out chips at a casino ;)


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Hinchlt on December 02, 2014, 03:58:14 PM
Cheers for the responses guys. Any more clarity is appreciated.

i thought that money going back would be a similar thing to a "refund" on a credit card (if that makes sense).

Specifically interested if anyone has any experience of buying chips with their skrill/neteller card.



Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: arbboy on December 02, 2014, 04:00:03 PM
I don't think it's possible to do a refund onto a card.  In the old days you could 'buy' your cheque back with chips so the bank manager didn't have to see you have been on the chevy late at night in a casino when the casino cashed them.  Pretty sure it's for money laundering reasons.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 02, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Some casinos will do bank transfers for large amounts. Many also have deposit boxes if you ask nicely enough. I know a friend who got a score in blackpool one year who managed to send it to another G to collect.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: arbboy on December 02, 2014, 04:15:17 PM
Some casinos will do bank transfers for large amounts. Many also have deposit boxes if you ask nicely enough. I know a friend who got a score in blackpool one year who managed to send it to another G to collect.

I think the main reason casino's don't offer it is the same reason supermarkets offer cash back.  It reduces their banking costs of security firms collecting their cash from the casino.  They effectively swap their hard cash on site for cash being taken off the premises via card transactions.  In addition this reduces security risk of having so much cash on site as well.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Marky147 on December 02, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
I don't think it's possible to do a refund onto a card.  In the old days you could 'buy' your cheque back with chips so the bank manager didn't have to see you have been on the chevy late at night in a casino when the casino cashed them.  Pretty sure it's for money laundering reasons.

Haha, the good old days!

I remember when I first joined the mob in 99, and was on first year wages. The landlord of my local used to let me post date cheques at the end of the month :D


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: arbboy on December 02, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
I don't think it's possible to do a refund onto a card.  In the old days you could 'buy' your cheque back with chips so the bank manager didn't have to see you have been on the chevy late at night in a casino when the casino cashed them.  Pretty sure it's for money laundering reasons.

Haha, the good old days!

I remember when I first joined the mob in 99, and was on first year wages. The landlord of my local used to let me post date cheques at the end of the month :D

Was like interest free Wonga before wonga existed.  You could easily borrow a ton for 5 or 6 days interest free if you timed the banking dates right before the cheque got cashed.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Hinchlt on December 02, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
i'm basically trying to make the journey home safer :P I live in a city centre so its a shortish walk.

i'm also reluctant to travel back from london on the mega bus at 4am with a load of cash


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: arbboy on December 02, 2014, 04:40:39 PM
i'm basically trying to make the journey home safer :P I live in a city centre so its a shortish walk.

i'm also reluctant to travel back from london on the mega bus at 4am with a load of cash

Take a cheque or leave it on deposit at casino for future use.  Either option are available at all casinos.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Hinchlt on December 02, 2014, 04:45:34 PM

Take a cheque or leave it on deposit at casino for future use.  Either option are available at all casinos.

Interesting- cheers

What do you mean put it on deposit? How does this work?


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: arbboy on December 02, 2014, 05:04:12 PM

Take a cheque or leave it on deposit at casino for future use.  Either option are available at all casinos.

Interesting- cheers

What do you mean put it on deposit? How does this work?


You ask the cashier to 'look after' the cash for you and you will collect on a different day.  They will ask you to sign a receipt to confirm you have deposited £x with them and you use this recepit to collect the cash whenever you choose.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Hinchlt on December 02, 2014, 06:05:59 PM
You ask the cashier to 'look after' the cash for you and you will collect on a different day.  They will ask you to sign a receipt to confirm you have deposited £x with them and you use this recepit to collect the cash whenever you choose.

Thanks!

So the casino acts as a bank (?) but gives me a receipt instead of my having like a bank statement.

When I want the cash do I have to take all of it out at once, or could I pull some out to play the following evening and get an amended receipt for the remainder? (and then put my winnings and what i pulled out back on deposit?)

I realise this is pretty straightforward/ simple questions, and I appreciate the time taken to respond


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2014, 06:55:26 AM
Cheers for the responses guys. Any more clarity is appreciated.

i thought that money going back would be a similar thing to a "refund" on a credit card (if that makes sense).

Specifically interested if anyone has any experience of buying chips with their skrill/neteller card.



I think there is a slight but crucial misunderstanding here, though I may be wrong. You cannot buy CHIPS (as such) with plastic.

When you present your Credit or Debit Card at the Casino Cashier's Desk, they do NOT give you chips in exchange - they give you cash. Without even touching that cash, you can then ask for chips in exchange, & you will be given the chips.

There is a subtle difference.

So, when you are ready to cash out, you can only be given cash really, as you purchased the chips with cash. 

Of course, in a well run venue such as DTD, when you  want to cah out, they give you all the options - cash, Bank TX, Cheque, or "leave it on deposit" with them.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: EvilPie on December 03, 2014, 08:59:04 AM
Pretty sure you can't use a credit card to buy cash at a casino. You definitely can't at DTD that's for sure.

Debit cards are fine but not credit cards.



Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2014, 09:02:30 AM
Pretty sure you can't use a credit card to buy cash at a casino. You definitely can't at DTD that's for sure.

Debit cards are fine but not credit cards.



Am sure you are correct. I am afraid I get confused by the difference between Debit Cards & Credit Cards. I still have an Access card, but I rarely use it these days.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: atdc21 on December 03, 2014, 12:56:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwqzLiBGMUKE


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: arbboy on December 03, 2014, 01:21:00 PM
You ask the cashier to 'look after' the cash for you and you will collect on a different day.  They will ask you to sign a receipt to confirm you have deposited £x with them and you use this recepit to collect the cash whenever you choose.

Thanks!

So the casino acts as a bank (?) but gives me a receipt instead of my having like a bank statement.

When I want the cash do I have to take all of it out at once, or could I pull some out to play the following evening and get an amended receipt for the remainder? (and then put my winnings and what i pulled out back on deposit?)

I realise this is pretty straightforward/ simple questions, and I appreciate the time taken to respond

Pretty much what you said is the case.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: Marky147 on December 03, 2014, 01:25:45 PM
I don't think it's possible to do a refund onto a card.  In the old days you could 'buy' your cheque back with chips so the bank manager didn't have to see you have been on the chevy late at night in a casino when the casino cashed them.  Pretty sure it's for money laundering reasons.

Haha, the good old days!

I remember when I first joined the mob in 99, and was on first year wages. The landlord of my local used to let me post date cheques at the end of the month :D

Was like interest free Wonga before wonga existed.  You could easily borrow a ton for 5 or 6 days interest free if you timed the banking dates right before the cheque got cashed.

Yeah, used to give him a cheque, and then just ask him not to bank it before X.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 03, 2014, 05:16:35 PM
Cheers for the responses guys. Any more clarity is appreciated.

i thought that money going back would be a similar thing to a "refund" on a credit card (if that makes sense).

Specifically interested if anyone has any experience of buying chips with their skrill/neteller card.



I think there is a slight but crucial misunderstanding here, though I may be wrong. You cannot buy CHIPS (as such) with plastic.

When you present your Credit or Debit Card at the Casino Cashier's Desk, they do NOT give you chips in exchange - they give you cash. Without even touching that cash, you can then ask for chips in exchange, & you will be given the chips.

There is a subtle difference.

So, when you are ready to cash out, you can only be given cash really, as you purchased the chips with cash. 

Of course, in a well run venue such as DTD, when you  want to cah out, they give you all the options - cash, Bank TX, Cheque, or "leave it on deposit" with them.

Aspers Stratford once refused to give me cash and made me get chips wander about the casino for a bit and return to a different bloke. All rather bizarre. If its your local casino they tend to be much more relaxed.


Title: Re: Land based casino question
Post by: tikay on December 03, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Cheers for the responses guys. Any more clarity is appreciated.

i thought that money going back would be a similar thing to a "refund" on a credit card (if that makes sense).

Specifically interested if anyone has any experience of buying chips with their skrill/neteller card.



I think there is a slight but crucial misunderstanding here, though I may be wrong. You cannot buy CHIPS (as such) with plastic.

When you present your Credit or Debit Card at the Casino Cashier's Desk, they do NOT give you chips in exchange - they give you cash. Without even touching that cash, you can then ask for chips in exchange, & you will be given the chips.

There is a subtle difference.

So, when you are ready to cash out, you can only be given cash really, as you purchased the chips with cash.  

Of course, in a well run venue such as DTD, when you  want to cah out, they give you all the options - cash, Bank TX, Cheque, or "leave it on deposit" with them.

Aspers Stratford once refused to give me cash and made me get chips wander about the casino for a bit and return to a different bloke. All rather bizarre. If its your local casino they tend to be much more relaxed.

Ha!

Have to admit, Luton G did the same to me once.

I wanted some cash, & they would only give me chips.

So they plonked the chips on the cash desk, & I said, "OK, I have the chips now, can I exchange them for cash please?"

The Young Lady said "you have to touch them first, so the camera can see you have accepted them".

So I placed one finger, all theatrical like, on top of the top chip, & the Young Lady said "that's fine, I can give you cash now".

She then cut the stacks & counted them.

I said "why you do that, they have not moved since you gave them to me?!

She said "I have to let the camera see that I counted them after you touched them".

"Fair 'enuff"