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Had a bet today in a Ladbrokes shop (not entirely for myself) which was lucky enough to win and returned £1412.50.  The girl counted out the money and I just put it straight in my pocket.  I stayed in the shop and had another couple of bets and won a small amount which they didn't have the cash to pay me so I said I would return tomorrow.  When I got back to the car and counted the bundles she had given me I realised that she had paid me £100 too much but had obviously not discovered it yet but given how long I had stayed I don't think they would have traced it to me.  Do you take it back?  In terms of mitigating factors etc they are always fair to me in there and it is the only Ladbrokes close to where my parents live, I know from working for Ladbrokes that a £100 cash difference could be a firing offence (but is probably only like a 20% shot), I am not exactly flush at the moment and it isn't an insignificant sum for me but giving it back isn't going to ruin Xmas etc, they try and lay me a bet in there (most Ladbrokes are like that to be fair) and definitely treat me better than 90% of shops I go in, in terms of my dealings with Ladbrokes in my name they don't entertain me at all and actually a few things they have done this year have caused me some significant difficulties. 

I have already made my decision but just interested in what others would do.

Return the £100, & you'll feel better.

If you don't, & they start messing you around, you'll be thinking "if only I had taken that £100 back".

You expect to be paid in full, & you'd be miffed if they short-changed you. That's a 2 way street. 

It would for me 100% depend on if I would have got the money back if it was me who had been shorted. Regardless of the answer being due to honesty or incompetence.

Go back in, if they dont remember they gave you too much then whats the chances they remember theyd paid you too little.

oh and thin brag brah

Obv missed the not entirely for me bit ;-)

Hand it back.

what they would do the other way round is irrelveant, do unto them as you would want them to do to you

Karma.

Put it on a 16/1 shot. It's like giving it back anyway. Tip them a oner if it comes in

I would return it as otherwise the gambling gods will look down on you dimly and you will knock in a lot more than the extra hundo you now have.....

Keep it, tip the staff £50 when your next in.  

Think how many times they have mugged punters off, how likely is it they spot the £100 and sack an individual?  I mean how do you trace it?

Tighty wins.

Like that.

Stick it on one of Eso Kral's tips, it's effectively the same as giving the £100 back, but it satisfies the gambling bug. They give you an "I am an Ice Cream" sticker, too. 

Ladbrokes 100% trace it.  Her till will be £100 wrong.  When I worked for Ladbrokes nearly 20 years ago I remember a staff member getting fired for a £100 cash difference....it is obviously worth a bit less now and circumstances might be different etc but she gets a severe bollocking and written warning at best I would think.  Pretty sure I got a written warning for a score difference all those years ago (although I was worlds worst cashier to be fair....too busy watching the racing)

Yes because karma is massively relevant.

to be fair though, she aint suited to the job.

redarmi asked for opinions, i gave mine as to what would be relevant to me

what's your problem?

I had exactly the same experience the other week.

Just replace Ladbrokes for Newsagent and £100 for 50p.

It wasn't a dilemma for me. Just took it back and explained what had happened. If this is a dilemma, you've got a wonderful life!

Tipping £50 is obviously the nut low. The girl on the till gets pleasure from that until her manager finds out the cash is short and blames her.

Absolutely everyone knows that the right thing to do is to give it back. Any reasons given to the contrary are just people self-justifying what they know to be an immoral act.

hmmm not sure about this

Was it wrong settlement or miscounting?  Wrong settlement you can prob, just say what was the settlement of the bet and then sort it out.

If it was miscounting basically the shop will now be £100 down and I don't know what happens with that - are you sure that giving back the money will actually sort anything?  It might go into someone's pocket.  The girl might get sacked as she will be identified as making the error.

If the money was short - you'd have been shafted.

If I spot something like this as it happens I'll always give it back, but after a bit of time, I don't know.

Maybe give it to charity?

 

She definitely miscounted.  The correct settlement was £1412.50 and she paid me £1512.50.  I watched her count it and didn't pick it up at the time but looking back I can see the mistake she made.

Think you need to know what happens in a shop if they're £100 down.

The "right" thing to do is to give it back, but it's a bit pointless if you aren't really sure what its going to accomplish.

Uh...you're going to give a company its money back..?

If I had names blanked out and had to tell you who had written what, I could have put names to them.

Having been on the wrong end of various disputes, with Ladbrokes which end up with IBAS and never won, I would have called getting the £100 back that way, as being the Karma!

Works both ways, as you rightly point out!

The grammer and speling gave me away didnt it ?

Lol at people mentioning betting gods and karma etc. give it back every time.

In order of preference I'd

1) Keep it/  Give it to some poor unfortunate fucker who's out sleeping rough in that Wheather. (wholly dependent on how Skint I was, if I was up on the day then the guy sleeping rough gets it.
2)Tip staff for Christmas
3) Donate to Charity
4) Burn it
5) Give it back to Ladbrokes.  

Karma is utter pish imo. 

But gtf with giving it back, you haven't stayed in Glasgow long enough sir. 

Snap Give it back. AINEC!!!.

Come on you are potentially dealing with someone Job and its £100 ffs.

give it back while doing so let them know which charity you support should they feel the need to make a donation of £10 or what ever for basically not getting a dressing down for till being short

lol she might get sacked BECAUSE you give it back!

And? when they shaft us time and again they are dealing with someone not getting a Christmas present.  

Harsh lesson but maybe she would be more careful with the cash in future.

Disagree. Certainly more chance if its not handed in.

Hardly no Christmas Present. Imagine it was 1 of your own and this happened.
I would take it back. Just the way I was brought up.

The fact you have a.good relationship with this shop means it's give it back everytime for me

You don't work in a bookies, you haven't a clue what they do when they're £100 down (neither do I btw)

Give it back.  Doesn't matter if they killed my cat previously. 

IMHO its morally wrong not to give back. Are we blinded because who were Dealing with it.

Does it change if we go in and buy something from a charity shop and are given change of a £20 after giving over £10.

Even if it only exits in your own mind, karma is HUGE.

Give it back 100% of the time.

Pains me but Davie is right. Even though he has grimmed me, but that's a whole other thread.

Do what's right, and what you would like Others to do to you.

Personally wouldn't matter where this happened to me if anyone in an employed position can't count and I benefit it's not my fault. 

So just to confirm then, you are now quite happy that the girl gets sacked?

btw look up "strawman argument".  

You just did it and I did it in return.

 

So it's reasonable, and would stand up in an employment tribunal for someone to be sacked for making one mistake? Maybe if she was a surgeon or something, but surely not over a wrong payment.

I did explain in OP that I used to work for Ladbrokes (albeit 20 years ago)  so I think I can make a fairly educated guess that it will at the very least cause her to get a warning and there is a chance she gets fired.  When I worked there they certainly weren't afraid to fire staff.  Would be surprised if they have got better but I don't honestly know.

Surprised you even feel the need to ask the question.

Whatever the final outcome the person who overpaid you will face having her till being £100 light and will fall under suspicion for that.

Take it back, and do it sooner rather than later.

To be fair to redarmi, he said in his op he has already made his decision.

Good point, ignore the first line (assuming your decision was to take the money back).

I did take it back (had actually done it when I posted).  I suppose my reason for posting was that I have recently been wondering a bit whether I look out for my own interests enough and am hardheaded enough especially in financial dealings and this seemed like a fairly good example but in all reality I couldn't keep the money.

might not qualify for ET if not there long, and it would be classed as gross misconduct and instant dismissal in most cash handling roles.

Out of Interest. What was the reaction.

A mixture of surprise and gratitude.  By that point they had discovered the difference but had no idea what is was down to.

Well Done. I certainly feel better now.

Might be immoral, but if it had been someone like Simon Clare running a random betting shop, I would have probably bought the boys a round of jaegerbombs, and flicked a bullseye to the MS Society*
 
*If I was already a grand up on the day, obv :)


If it was a regular stomping ground, I'd have handed it straight over, like yourself.

lol, you think you losing money to the bookies is relevant to this girl counting the dough out incorrectly?

Does this girl shaft you every time you do your money?

She prob gets a warning minimum, you knew what the right thing to do was Stu.

Bloody hell, what a coincidence.

I was overpaid for the first time in ages in a Coral shop today (£55)

I had £100 on a 2/1 winner there last week, I asked for a price, the woman looked it up on the screen and wrote it on the slip.

When I collected they paid me out at 7/4 because "the price had changed before it was captured".

I so nearly kept the £55 because of this, but I didn't I handed it back.

The woman never said a word in acknowledgement or thanks.

what about a volunteer in a charity shop they dont all get paid in there

I'd defo treat charity differently, the whole idea of going there is generally to gove them money.

Surprised to see you guys linking returning the money with the cashier's fate. They may be linked if you return it within the hour or something but once the mistake's been discovered that's that. Whether you return it or not doesn't change anything. The manager will be addressing the mistake, and the mistake of incorrectly paying a punter still exists even when you return the money. If you want to return it then same day is a must. After that you might as well decide how best to use it to max karma and I guess your choice of charity is the winner.

Probably whooshed me but huh?

I did hand it back, not didn't.

D'oh.

Aren't we going full circle?

I seem to remember the same thread about 7 years ago with you enjoying Sunday Dinner down the pub with you missus using your stolen booty.

no it was 7/4 instead of 2/1 being a difference of £55 that confused me :)

I felt like they stole £25 from me the week before. I was very butthurt.

Lol I remember that, Baker Street Ladbrokes as I recall. Just to clarify my advice was to the heroes discussing karma and riding into William Hill on a white charger the next day to rescue the damsel in distress.

As for myself, who lives in the real world, I think karma is pish. I also think you do the girl or the manager no realistic favours. Nothing changes but your own state of mind and my state of mind is just find.

I believe we had rhubarb & crumble for dessert. Very tasty it was too!