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Title: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2015, 08:49:29 AM


Been racking my tiny brain trying to think of something that might work. Super Bowl is 10 days away, & plenty of us will stay up & watch it.

Can't really think of anything that works well though, it does not easily lend itself to Tips or a Sweepstake.

Total TD Shirt Numbers?

Total TD minutes.

Total points?

Time of 1st & last score combined?


Only needs to be a tenner to enter, & I'll add a £25 for a "Marky Award" for whoever comes last. (I won the last tipping comp here, you hear that Vince?). 

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Tal on January 21, 2015, 09:55:26 AM
Go through the oddschecker "view all markets" option and pick as many as you like. Most of them will be either/or (first coach's challenge, which team kicks off etc). You can, if you want, add some that are less easy but guessable like number of sacks, total touchdowns, kick off temperature. Then tie breakers could be things like total Brady passing yards.

All down to whoever is running the spreadsheet on the night and whether they actually want to enjoy the game!

In for whatever is decided.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TL900 on January 21, 2015, 10:13:37 AM
Ye in for whatever also


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: KarmaDope on January 21, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
There's always that squares thing I see often on 2p2, could be good for a fun sweat at £5 per square (would be a £500 pool as 100 squares)


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Marky147 on January 21, 2015, 11:47:38 AM
Not exactly sure how they work, but squares sounds good.

Flushy and Dubai always used to punt the high stakes version of that on 2p2.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2015, 11:54:49 AM


I've not seen that "squares" thing, but would it be reasonably easy for someone to organise, manage, & run?

Bear in mind, if anyone needs level 7 Spreadsheet technical assistance, I'm always happy to assist, I know about Formulas & all sorts.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: arbboy on January 21, 2015, 12:04:16 PM
One other option is possible which is easy to do and has no skill (should attract people who know nothing about the superbowl) and is winner takes all.  Based on a football coupon which is available in the betting shops it involved 4 or 5 or 6 'coinflip' events in the superbowl which can be yes and no.  Really simple outcomes which even the casual fan can follow.

ie will seattle kick off?  which team will score the first fg of the game?  which team will score the first td of the game?  who will score last in the game?  will there be more than 23.5 points in the first half?  As it is a coin flip game this makes this type of sweepstake very fair and very unskillful and just a bit of casual fun for all concerned.  You can easily combine the five or six outcomes to be spread over the whole game to make the sweat last til the final whistle.

If we have 32 runners then everyone is randomly assigned an individual combination of the outcomes (if we have 32 runners we will need 5 coinflip events to make up the 32 combinations of outcomes for example - 64 runners and we need 6 coinflip events). £5 or £10 a go and people can have as many £10 shots as they want as there is no real skill in any of the outcomes.

Just an idea.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TightEnd on January 21, 2015, 12:13:10 PM
i have just knocked up this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16eAfJtIDnPuajYaSKvOvBi9oNsN8duSGaOJnuJk_QRk/edit#gid=0

fairly self explanatory

£500 pool

4 potential winners of a slice of it

£5 a square

people choose on here a square x axis number - y axis number

and every square gets a sweat to the end of the game


seem ok?


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Tal on January 21, 2015, 12:25:42 PM
So, it's the last digit of each team's score?

20-14 would be 0-4 and so on, right? Never seen one of these things before, but, sure, whyever not?!


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: KarmaDope on January 21, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
i have just knocked up this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16eAfJtIDnPuajYaSKvOvBi9oNsN8duSGaOJnuJk_QRk/edit#gid=0

fairly self explanatory

£500 pool

4 potential winners of a slice of it

£5 a square

people choose on here a square x axis number - y axis number

and every square gets a sweat to the end of the game


seem ok?


Yep...but numbers at top and sides should be random otherwise shrewdies will know not to pick less likely numbers, and not revealed until all squares are bought :)


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TightEnd on January 21, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
i have just knocked up this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16eAfJtIDnPuajYaSKvOvBi9oNsN8duSGaOJnuJk_QRk/edit#gid=0

fairly self explanatory

£500 pool

4 potential winners of a slice of it

£5 a square

people choose on here a square x axis number - y axis number

and every square gets a sweat to the end of the game


seem ok?


Yep...but numbers at top and sides should be random otherwise shrewdies will know not to pick less likely numbers, and not revealed until all squares are bought :)

yes i would set the spreadsheet private when everyone has got the idea

then people pick eg 1-1 through to 10-10 but they won't know the numbers associated with the square until all squares sold


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2015, 12:35:35 PM
i have just knocked up this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16eAfJtIDnPuajYaSKvOvBi9oNsN8duSGaOJnuJk_QRk/edit#gid=0

fairly self explanatory

£500 pool

4 potential winners of a slice of it

£5 a square

people choose on here a square x axis number - y axis number

and every square gets a sweat to the end of the game


seem ok?


I doubt we'd get £500 worth of entries, but that apart, it looks good.

Lets see what other views come in, but we may have something to work on now.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: DMorgan on January 21, 2015, 01:06:29 PM
Squares idea looks fun


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Marky147 on January 21, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
i have just knocked up this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16eAfJtIDnPuajYaSKvOvBi9oNsN8duSGaOJnuJk_QRk/edit#gid=0

fairly self explanatory

£500 pool

4 potential winners of a slice of it

£5 a square

people choose on here a square x axis number - y axis number

and every square gets a sweat to the end of the game


seem ok?


I doubt we'd get £500 worth of entries, but that apart, it looks good.

Lets see what other views come in, but we may have something to work on now.

Could be right, punters are thin on the ground atm  :P


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TightEnd on January 21, 2015, 01:12:34 PM
20 people at 4 or 5 squares each i was thinking, for £20-25 each, was doable

comparable with numbers who enter dogs etc, lower than numbers that enter cheltenham, ascot etc etc

anyway, an option if we want to go that route


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: KarmaDope on January 21, 2015, 01:36:44 PM
Tighty is thinking the same I did when I proposed it. Would expect a lot of the TFT regsr to take a few entries etc, whereas it could entice people like myself (I know I'll have one for a start) who might see £20 as a bit much but can flick in a £5er.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: MereNovice on January 21, 2015, 01:52:26 PM
I'm happy to help with any organising if required but it looks to me as though Tighty has got this all in hand.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Omm on January 21, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
I'm happy to take £25 if needed or £5 if there are lots of interest, whatever, just for an interest.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Royal Flush on January 21, 2015, 03:05:16 PM
I'd take a few


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Graham C on January 21, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
I'd have a couple


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: bobby1 on January 21, 2015, 03:15:44 PM
That squares idea seems very strange to me in a game with literally hundreds of events within the event you could select from.

Would be like having a Royal Ascot comp where the entrants horses were picked by drawing the numbers of the runners randomly instead of making some selections yourself.

Surely the only real sweat in hoping some random numbers happen to be the score at the end of the qtrs only gives you a sweat near the end of each qtr and none at all if you can't win?

Match winner, total points,Individual Player props, TD shirt numbers, first TD scorer, last TD scorer, MVP etc, total quarter points. First scoring play, last scoring play. Rush yards match ups, rec yards match ups, pass yard match ups etc. most of those give you game long sweats where almost every play will count towards the total of one/more of the selections. Doesn't sweating almost every play have more fun than I've drawn 8 and 2 and got very little chance of winning and don't really need to follow it until the last few mins if each qtr?

We could knock about 20 over/under or yes/no markets up in no time too if you wanted to go down that route.







Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TightEnd on January 21, 2015, 03:19:45 PM
You can yes

the squares format is very common in things like office sweepstakes over there, where people might not have a lot of football knowledge...bit like the equivalent of a grand national sweepstake

a lottery, not a skill process, in effect

happy either way, will enter either...it just depends what people prefer


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: tikay on January 21, 2015, 03:26:30 PM
That squares idea seems very strange to me in a game with literally hundreds of events within the event you could select from.

Would be like having a Royal Ascot comp where the entrants horses were picked by drawing the numbers of the runners randomly instead of making some selections yourself.

Surely the only real sweat in hoping some random numbers happen to be the score at the end of the qtrs only gives you a sweat near the end of each qtr and none at all if you can't win?

Match winner, total points,Individual Player props, TD shirt numbers, first TD scorer, last TD scorer, MVP etc, total quarter points. First scoring play, last scoring play. Rush yards match ups, rec yards match ups, pass yard match ups etc. most of those give you game long sweats where almost every play will count towards the total of one/more of the selections. Doesn't sweating almost every play have more fun than I've drawn 8 and 2 and got very little chance of winning and don't really need to follow it until the last few mins if each qtr?

We could knock about 20 over/under or yes/no markets up in no time too if you wanted to go down that route.







They were my original suggestion, Phil, but I'm not sure how you turn them into a "Tipping Comp" or Sweepstake really. We want to get "Non-NFL experts" involved, too, & if it is a pure skill thing, they won't be interested, or even know how to enter. We must remember the Marky's of this world.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: bobby1 on January 21, 2015, 03:56:04 PM
Well you can have 10-20 player prop types along the lines of.

Will Rob Gronkowskis total receiving yards be over or under 85 1/2 yards.

You don't really need to follow the game to understand that and it's a yes/no answer. if you are watching your first NFL match ever you still know that catching a ten yard pass is good for you if you have picked over and bad if you are sweating the under.  If you had even 6 or 7 player props from each team then every play is likely to change the running total of one of the participants.

On markets like match winner, total points first TD scorer, MVP etc we can list the betting markets so even if it is your first NFL game you can see the more likely outcomes.

Wouldn't that be more of a comp than cheering on 8-2  as the first quarter score as that is your only realistic chance of winning if you draw 8 and 2. Or HT scores like 12-8, 18-2, 18-12, 22-8, there are going to be loads of numbers that never even get a sweat ( still too early to mention last weekends game did end with an 8 and a 2?)

that comp would really be something you barely followed during the game and just looked at afterwards to see if you won owt imo.







Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: Kmac84 on January 21, 2015, 08:15:55 PM
In for anything. 


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 21, 2015, 08:44:20 PM
In for anything. 

And in for both.

As many things to sweat as possible in something like the Super Bowl.

I like to be on both teams and both QB's overs and unders if possible. This is known as the reverse eso I believe?


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: ForthThistle on January 21, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
In for the Lot!!!


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: mulhuzz on January 21, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
would play squares!


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: ForthThistle on January 26, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
Is this Happening.

Would be a shame if it didn't.
Let me know if you need any help in running it.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: sonour on January 27, 2015, 08:26:48 AM
I think the 10 or 20 yes or no would be good.

Anyone who knows NFL can use their judgement and feel that there is some skill involved.

Anyone who knows absolutely nothing can just guess and is at no real disadvantage.

Also it will give us lots of different things to sweat during the game.


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: tikay on January 27, 2015, 08:33:02 AM


I wish I could help with this, but I really don't have a clue.

Be good to do something though.

Tighty, or anyone?


(http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3511776-v)


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TightEnd on January 27, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
i have helped Mere choose 20 markets for a competition

people choose one side of an answer for each question. easy to guess, easy to analyse, depending on people's knowledge

he will put it up later


Title: Re: Super Bowl Tipping Comp or Sweepstake?
Post by: TightEnd on January 27, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=64863.0

for the competition