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Title: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: George2Loose on March 09, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Predictions Pls. Goals or tight affair? Who's scoring first? Who will win or will it be taken back to the Emirates??


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: nirvana on March 09, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
Arse are not scoring very freely at the moment so probs 1-3 or thereabouts


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2015, 06:51:08 PM
Draw me up, buttercup!


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: exstream on March 09, 2015, 06:53:12 PM
Draw me up, buttercup!



Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
One nil to The Arsenal, one nil to The Arsenal,
One nil to The Arsenal, one nil to The Arsenal.

COYG  ;mexicanwave;


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: david3103 on March 09, 2015, 07:15:35 PM
Memories...



http://youtu.be/ym6t6i-wnmw


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2015, 07:20:29 PM


I shall forever be grateful to the Man U - Arsenal clash for bringing about an end to my Spread Betting habit, some 10 or 12 years ago. (May have been longer?)

I was on something like Arsenal Supremacy (is that the term?) @ £500 per goal. Think it was 6-1 to Man U. It was a Sunday afternoon, I remember it vividly. I could have closed out, but in those days, I was stubborn.

I settled up on the Monday (we settled up weekly then, joy of joys), & I never had another bet for 10 years. I was cured, yay.

And then....and then......Camel started that bloody thread.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: DropTheHammer on March 09, 2015, 07:39:49 PM
Predictions Pls. Goals or tight affair? Who's scoring first? Who will win or will it be taken back to the Emirates??

Well, if anyone has a strong opinion on a winner Paddy Power are offering free bet refunds if it's a draw...


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: kinboshi on March 09, 2015, 07:53:07 PM
A draw. Hopefully.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Tal on March 09, 2015, 07:58:35 PM
A draw. Hopefully.

Or 14-0 United.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2015, 08:13:38 PM
A draw. Hopefully.

Rotten sod or should I say 'kinboshi.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Larry David on March 09, 2015, 08:21:00 PM
You could give away £6 on the off chance it is a draw to win a free bet, couldn't quite get under 101%


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2015, 08:46:26 PM
Now that's what you call football  ;kneelsucker;


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: david3103 on March 09, 2015, 08:58:25 PM
Now that's what you call football  ;kneelsucker;


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7970d454779748ca3ac0dbab45a1492d/tumblr_mpexmyf6my1s58u7bo2_1280.png)


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2015, 09:01:07 PM

Really enjoying this, lovely to watch.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: sovietsong on March 09, 2015, 09:03:38 PM

Really enjoying this, lovely to watch.

Cracking game


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2015, 09:06:19 PM

Really enjoying this, lovely to watch.

Cracking game

Rare to see such an open, flowing, end to end game.

Won't break my heart whoever wins, it's just lovely to see the game played like this.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: sovietsong on March 09, 2015, 09:07:18 PM

Really enjoying this, lovely to watch.

Cracking game

Rare to see such an open, flowing, end to end game.

Won't break my heart whoever wins, it's just lovely to see the game played like this.

Draw is worst result for both teams. I'd like arsenal to win


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: kinboshi on March 09, 2015, 09:09:33 PM
A draw. Hopefully.

Rotten sod or should I say 'kinboshi.

;)


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: TightEnd on March 09, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2015, 10:47:52 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

I thought so, yes.

The lad Januzaj is a wonderful talent, such a shame he does things like that. A few 6 month bans for that sort of thing would do football the world of good, imo, it is becoming commonplace.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: arbboy on March 09, 2015, 10:49:31 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

Awesome display by the ref. manure shocking.  Going to be really interesting watching the glazers stand by their man when they win nothing and don't make the top 4 even though they had the schedule from heaven all season with no champs league football. Easy to forget the scousers nearly won the league last year without any European commitments and a week to prepare for every game as well. Scousers also didn't spend anywhere near the money manure have this season either.  Not going to get any easier when the keeper leaves in the summer for Spain. How are manure going to replace him?

With regards to the kid diving it was funny to watch him settle himself first on his feet before he decided to dive.  Stuff like that should be an auto red card and a three match ban if confirmed by the video after the game.  We have to rid ourselves of this stuff in the game.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: david3103 on March 09, 2015, 11:37:24 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

The Januzaj booking was inarguably correct, the di Maria one maybe less so. But no excuses for the loss.

Wish I'd been watching as a neutral because that was a cracking good game.



Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: arbboy on March 09, 2015, 11:40:46 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

The Januzaj booking was inarguably correct, the di Maria one maybe less so. But no excuses for the loss.

Wish I'd been watching as a neutral because that was a cracking good game.



He waited for the ref to turn his back then poked him aggressively in the back. You are not allowed to touch refs so where is the debate unless you assume at old Trafford manure players can do whatever they like?

It was a great game to watch as a neutral I agree but both clubs are miles off where their supporters think they should be.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: david3103 on March 09, 2015, 11:43:51 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

Awesome display by the ref. manure shocking.  Going to be really interesting watching the glazers stand by their man when they win nothing and don't make the top 4 even though they had the schedule from heaven all season with no champs league football. Easy to forget the scousers nearly won the league last year without any European commitments and a week to prepare for every game as well. Scousers also didn't spend anywhere near the money manure have this season either.  Not going to get any easier when the keeper leaves in the summer for Spain. How are manure going to replace him?

With regards to the kid diving it was funny to watch him settle himself first on his feet before he decided to dive.  Stuff like that should be an auto red card and a three match ban if confirmed by the video after the game.  We have to rid ourselves of this stuff in the game.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2015, 11:44:04 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

The Januzaj booking was inarguably correct, the di Maria one maybe less so. But no excuses for the loss.

Wish I'd been watching as a neutral because that was a cracking good game.



He waited for the ref to turn his back then poked him aggressively in the back. You are not allowed to touch refs so where is the debate unless you assume at old Trafford manure players can do whatever they like?

Think David was referring to the booking which led up to the push on the ref. That booking was a hard one to call, to be fair. The push on the ref was the easiest red ever.

If I paid someone as much as Man U presumably pay De Maria, I'd be pretty miffed for his wanton stupidity.

Shame really, as it may have tipped the balance in what was a truly thrilling spectacle up until then.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: david3103 on March 09, 2015, 11:45:06 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

The Januzaj booking was inarguably correct, the di Maria one maybe less so. But no excuses for the loss.

Wish I'd been watching as a neutral because that was a cracking good game.



He waited for the ref to turn his back then poked him aggressively in the back. You are not allowed to touch refs so where is the debate unless you assume at old Trafford manure players can do whatever they like?

Think David was referring to the booking which led up to the push on the ref. That booking was a hard one to call, to be fair. The push on the ref was the easiest red ever.

If I paid someone as much as Man U presumablty pay De Maria, I'd be pretty miffed for his wanton stupidity.

Shame really, as it may have tipped the balance in what was a truly thrilling spectacle up until then.

Tighty nails it. As ever.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: arbboy on March 09, 2015, 11:49:21 PM
Having been booked how can you be so brain dead to poke the ref? He will still get his £250k a week for the next fortnight anyway so why would he care.   It's not like he is still going to be there next season.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2015, 11:56:40 PM
Having been booked how can you be so brain dead to poke the ref? He will still get his £250k a week for the next fortnight anyway so why would he care.   It's not like he is still going to be there next season.

I was working for John Kirkland when he took over the Chairman's role at Derby County from the late Mr Maxwell.

John was - is - immensely wealthy, but has always been a bit "funny" with money. Travels economy when he flies to the USA, etc. 

Anyway, he came storming into my office one day shortly after taking up his new role at Derby County.

"You'll never guess what I discovered. You'll never guess" he spluttered, as he went red in the face, & steam started issuing from his ears.

"When our players are suspended for disciplinary reasons, we STILL PAY THEM. How bloody daft is that? I'll soon put a stop to that.

Very logical, was John. 


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: DungBeetle on March 10, 2015, 09:46:27 AM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

The Januzaj booking was inarguably correct, the di Maria one maybe less so. But no excuses for the loss.

Wish I'd been watching as a neutral because that was a cracking good game.



He waited for the ref to turn his back then poked him aggressively in the back. You are not allowed to touch refs so where is the debate unless you assume at old Trafford manure players can do whatever they like?

It was a great game to watch as a neutral I agree but both clubs are miles off where their supporters think they should be.

Ref did him a big favour by only making it a second yellow.  Could easily be straight red and a 3 match ban.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Graham C on March 10, 2015, 09:54:08 AM
Having been booked how can you be so brain dead to poke the ref? He will still get his £250k a week for the next fortnight anyway so why would he care.   It's not like he is still going to be there next season.

I was working for John Kirkland when he took over the Chairman's role at Derby County from the late Mr Maxwell.

John was - is - immensely wealthy, but has always been a bit "funny" with money. Travels economy when he flies to the USA, etc. 

Anyway, he came storming into my office one day shortly after taking up his new role at Derby County.

"You'll never guess what I discovered. You'll never guess" he spluttered, as he went red in the face, & steam started issuing from his ears.

"When our players are suspended for disciplinary reasons, we STILL PAY THEM. How bloody daft is that? I'll soon put a stop to that.

Very logical, was John. 

Do clubs pay the fines for players?


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: TightEnd on March 10, 2015, 09:57:25 AM
Having been booked how can you be so brain dead to poke the ref? He will still get his £250k a week for the next fortnight anyway so why would he care.   It's not like he is still going to be there next season.

I was working for John Kirkland when he took over the Chairman's role at Derby County from the late Mr Maxwell.

John was - is - immensely wealthy, but has always been a bit "funny" with money. Travels economy when he flies to the USA, etc. 

Anyway, he came storming into my office one day shortly after taking up his new role at Derby County.

"You'll never guess what I discovered. You'll never guess" he spluttered, as he went red in the face, & steam started issuing from his ears.

"When our players are suspended for disciplinary reasons, we STILL PAY THEM. How bloody daft is that? I'll soon put a stop to that.

Very logical, was John. 

Do clubs pay the fines for players?

No, deducted at source


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
Having been booked how can you be so brain dead to poke the ref? He will still get his £250k a week for the next fortnight anyway so why would he care.   It's not like he is still going to be there next season.

I was working for John Kirkland when he took over the Chairman's role at Derby County from the late Mr Maxwell.

John was - is - immensely wealthy, but has always been a bit "funny" with money. Travels economy when he flies to the USA, etc. 

Anyway, he came storming into my office one day shortly after taking up his new role at Derby County.

"You'll never guess what I discovered. You'll never guess" he spluttered, as he went red in the face, & steam started issuing from his ears.

"When our players are suspended for disciplinary reasons, we STILL PAY THEM. How bloody daft is that? I'll soon put a stop to that.

Very logical, was John. 

Do clubs pay the fines for players?

No, deducted at source

Do the Clubs still pay their wages?


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Graham C on March 10, 2015, 10:14:39 AM
Just looking up on the cards

"Players in the Premier League receive a fine of £10 per red card and £15 additionally for every 5 yellow cards received. These fines are administration fees and are imposed by the Football Association. A player who receives a red card is also given a suspension. These rules are set for every tier of football across England including the EPL and Championship all they way down to Sunday League games. The FA is also responsible for other disciplinary action."

Tenner fine for a red card, is that still correct?  The link I used was dated 2012. 


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Longines on March 10, 2015, 10:32:16 AM
One of my U16 players was fined £10 for a yellow this season, think it might be £15 or £20 for a red.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2015, 10:39:42 AM
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Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: Karabiner on March 10, 2015, 12:38:25 PM
Has anyone seen G2L as I'm a little worried about him?



Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
Has anyone seen G2L as I'm a little worried about him?



You are incorrigble, Ralph. ;)


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: kinboshi on March 10, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

I thought so, yes.

The lad Januzaj is a wonderful talent, such a shame he does things like that. A few 6 month bans for that sort of thing would do football the world of good, imo, it is becoming commonplace.

Didn't they say on the commentary that he's been booked more times for diving whilst at United than he has scored goals for them?


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: tikay on March 10, 2015, 02:39:05 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

I thought so, yes.

The lad Januzaj is a wonderful talent, such a shame he does things like that. A few 6 month bans for that sort of thing would do football the world of good, imo, it is becoming commonplace.

Didn't they say on the commentary that he's been booked more times for diving whilst at United than he has scored goals for them?

Something like that, yes. It was his 4th card this season for "diving", I believe.

To a degree, Managers & Coaches must share the blame, too.


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: kinboshi on March 10, 2015, 02:46:55 PM
referee was excellent wasn't he?

quite the rarity to see such an assured set of decisions, especially at the stretford end for the Januzaj one

the intimindation factor of old trafford on and off the pitch definitely missing, for referees included

I thought so, yes.

The lad Januzaj is a wonderful talent, such a shame he does things like that. A few 6 month bans for that sort of thing would do football the world of good, imo, it is becoming commonplace.

Didn't they say on the commentary that he's been booked more times for diving whilst at United than he has scored goals for them?

Something like that, yes. It was his 4th card this season for "diving", I believe.

To a degree, Managers & Coaches must share the blame, too.

It's a 'risk v reward' thing though.  Whilst players win penalties and get opposition players sent-off with their diving and simulation; and seldom get punished for diving (other than last night), then they're going to continue to do it.  I'm sure their managers don't mind either if it wins them games and gets them up the league...


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: George2Loose on March 10, 2015, 03:11:24 PM
Ha I posted my thoughts on Facebook Ralph.

Shocking defending- we would be in serious shit if it wasn't got de gea.

Great refereeing- disgraceful by di Maria and adnan.

Really pleased for Welbeck and am glad he celebrated his goal- I think this should always happen unless you're relegating your former club.

Finally arsenal did not impress me much at all. They were just fortunate we were so bad. Id be more concerned as an arsenal fan than a United one for the times ahead


Title: Re: Man U vs Arsenal
Post by: BorntoBubble on March 10, 2015, 03:16:14 PM
Ha I posted my thoughts on Facebook Ralph.

Shocking defending- we would be in serious shit if it wasn't got de gea.

Great refereeing- disgraceful by di Maria and adnan.

Really pleased for Welbeck and am glad he celebrated his goal- I think this should always happen unless you're relegating your former club.

Finally arsenal did not impress me much at all. They were just fortunate we were so bad. Id be more concerned as an arsenal fan than a United one for the times ahead

Pretty much agree with all of this.

The game was great for the first 45 minutes, atmosphere good, temp high and spirits were high amongst Unit fans.

The changes at half time seemed to take the wind out of the platers and the fans, has it been said yet whether these were linked to injuries or not?

The 2nd half we played better with 10 than 11. When we had 11 I said to my mate, it looks like they have got one more man than us even though we are having most of the ball. Arsenal looked a lot quicker and fitter than us which at this level should just not be as visable I think.

De Gea is bailing us out of a lot of CRAP!

If we are not going to lob Falcao on in this situation then when are we?!

I was glad Welbeck celebrated also, although I wish he would have just celebrated in front of Arsenal fans and then Van Gaal.

United are just boring and frustrating to watch for large parts of the game, i would rather we lose and try and play good football than get draws and scrap through luckily playing punt the ball up to fellani.