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Sky are offering me a free new HD box, all I have to do is call up and they'll send it to me which is jolly decent of them.

I haven't got an HD telly though.

Will it still work with my old telly or do I just tuck it away until I update my TV?

It will work fine Ralph, and it's great to have a spare.

Beware the new (well the box they were shipping about 6 months ago) 1tb box does not have a scart lead output only HDMI output - so without buying a converter this would not work on a non HD TV.

Do you have a hard drive for recording on your current box. If not this new box will almost certainly have one.

SCART to HDMI cheap on ebay.

One thing to check is that accepting this new box may tie you into a further 12 month contract with Skye.

Never mind the box, get yourself an HDTV, its an absolute must have, especially given that you seem to watch a lot of sport. 

Try ae.com they do some cracking offers.  Definitely my best site for electrics. 

Just for balance, HD is virtually indistinguishable from ordinary telly IMO.

i thought that until I went hd, try watching the golf, you really notice the difference on the greens

Are you sure you have seen HD Red-Dog? Even without my glasses on i can tell the difference.

Actually, no. I'm not.

I have an HD box and an HD telly but HD broadcasts look virtually the same as ordinary ones.

Are you using a scart cable or a HDMI cable? If its scart then you need to change it to HDMI, if its HDMI then im really not sure.

The back of my telly has more plugs than one of tikay's spam posts.

The DVD player has a scart, the PlayStation has a multi-pin and the Sky box has a cable with a pink end which is plugged into a port marked HDMI 1.

All seems ok. Possible nowadays the difference isn't as big as it used to be.

I've phoned up and ordered it now, supposedly arriving on Monday.

There was no mention of extending my existing contract.

Thanks for all of the advice and feedback.

The difference to me is huge. Especially when watching sport, but films, anything really.  Not only is the picture substantially better - so is the sound. 

Probably depends how old the HD TV is, mines about 3 or 4 years old and I can still see a big difference, when I look at the new ones in the shops they look pretty amazing.

I think what dad really needs are hd eyes.

Once you've seen HD, and flick back to nonHD, you start wondering how on earth you could have watched it like that!

My wife can't tell the difference which remains baffling to me!

How do you flick back to non HD?

Doesn't the second statement contradict the first?

Well yes, but that's the part that baffles him.

Do you have Sky Sports?  Watch some cricket on 403 later then switch to the non-HD version - 435

This didn't go unnoticed Redsgirl, I was still laughing about it this morning.

No. I don't have sports and I can't find two others that are close together.

Couldn't disagree with this more, it's super noticeably clearer.

Def stop being a nit Karabiner and HD up :)

Tennis would be a good thing to show off.  BBC2 HD - 102, BBC2 normal 142 (?)   Picture and sound should be much better.

Even Bargain Hunt looks better in HD.   Movies for sure.

Tried this test, I can see no difference, Redsgirl reckons she can.


Then she casts doubt on my TV's HD capabilities.


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I am not sure the difference is as profound as it once was.

If a programme is filmed and broadcast in HD, and you view it on a HD box, on an HD channel through an HD TV this is the best picture you can get, but if its filmed and broadcast in HD and you view it on a non HD channel through a new SKY or Freeview box the box will do up-scaling for you, so although there is a difference it is much less profound then it once was.

Cricket, Wimbledon, Eastenders etc are all filmed in true digital HD (4k) and so even viewed through a non HD channel the picture will be much better then it was say 5 years ago.  I always struggle to notice the difference on sport, probably due to my chronic colour blindness, but something like the last couple of series of Family Guy the difference is noticeable.

I think the biggest difference is non HD filmed stuff, I get a far better picture (up-scale) from my freeview Ariel/box then I do Sky.  Remember the vast majority of stuff you view on non specialised HD channels is not actually filmed in HD so there will not actually be a difference between the two channels as your box/tv will up-scale at the same rate on both channels.

BTW- Daytime telly. O...M.... actual G!

Currently interviewing Coronation St superfans.


Hurry or you'll miss it.

Thanks. I knew it was all hyped up bollocks.

Tom when u get the chance visit your local Currys, then u will notice the difference, just don't bring your wallet.

So the only place it looks good is in the telly shop?  :)

Are you trolling your own thread?

:D

No, I'm trolling Ralph's thread.

Watch a David Attenborough documentary on SD and then switch to an HD channel (on a telly that supports HD obviously).  The difference is profound.

If you don't notice the difference, then instead of Curry's, it might be worth a visit to Specsavers instead. ;)

I wanted to go to Specsavers but I couldn't find it.

tbh I don't see much difference between HD and non HD. Though as already pointed out, stuff filmed in HD originally broadcasts much better nowadays. Just take a look at older programmes   and see how blurry they look.

Never been a fan of tv shops as the picture never looks right due to all the sets sharing the same feed

If u notice the difference in Currys then its your tv that needs updating (buy a new one). Thanks for the smiley face but i thought id explain anyway.

Tom, according to the manual (http://www.cornercottage.org/Manuals/Panasonic%20TV.pdf) your TV isn't HD, it's HD Ready.

SD is 576 lines.
HD is 1080 lines.

HD Ready TVs have 720 lines so you're not likely to spot much difference.

Doesnt this change if he has a HD box which then upscales the pictures on the HD channels?

Don't think so. The TV will be downscaling from the 1080i output of the Sky/Freeview HD box to display 720p.