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A freind has asked me how it's decided in a no limit re-buy tourney who moves tables and when?
I dont know the critearia for this, does anyone?

(This is a rare sober post from me so excuse the correct spelling)

When there are 23 runners on 3 tables. 8 players on 2 tables, 7 on the other.

A player on the 7 handed table lose his chips and decides not to re-buy.

A player must be taken from one of the 8 handed tables to keep the numbers even. The big blind usually, who is put into the worst position available at the new table.

As for which of the 8 handed tables the player is taken from, I believe it's just picked randomly by the tournament director. I'd be interested to hear if there actually is criterea for choosing which table to steal a player from in this situation.

the guy in charge of the game I went to moved the person (me) on the BB to a table that had a slot just after the BB.

Don't they move the person in a similar position to the space available?

No, they always move the BB in a no limit re-buy game

It all depends on where you play - and whether we are talking live or online.

Most of the live casino's take the big blind off the table with most players and move them to the table with fewer players and position them as close to the upcoming big blind as possible. But then some casino's will have different rules and its one of the things you should always ask the card room manager of before the tournament begins.

I play online on pokerstars and they do not have any set method of who is removed from the table with more players, they just take one player at random and move them to any available seat on the table with fewer players. (always handy when getting deep into a tourney and they move you just as its coming up to your turn and then position you miles away from the big blind on your new table!!)

The fairest way I have come across is when I was playing at the Orleans in Vegas. They use this method.
Player is moved from the top heavy table from exactly the same position the person has just busted from the short handed table.
i.e
Player busts from 4 positions after the button, then player in same position on top heavy table replaces him.
This can even work with the player in the small blind and in my opinion is the fairest and easiest way to do it.

Wish our casinos would adopt this method

I use the moving the big blind off the top heavy table to balance things out as its fairer ;)

and do you have a set proceedure as to where they sit at their new table?

If there's more than one top heavy table how do you pick which you move the player from?

Is it just random, the first one to finish the hand they're on?

Notts Gala its shortest chips that moves. we moan and complain and plead but still it's shortest chips.

The more I hear about that place, the less keen I am on visiting.

on the whole I still recommend the place but there are some things that just dont seem to get changed, who ever is in charge.

This actually makes a little sense. As an example, say every starts with 5,000 chips and at time of needing to move someone and 7 of the 8 players are down to 500 chips each and 1 guy is sitting with 36,500 chips and he is on the BB, he gets moved leaving only a possible 3,500 chips on the table in total.

The guys left on the table don't have much chance winning the tournament do they?

But if it's one of the shortest stacks which moves then there are still plenty of chips on every table.

I know I have taken an example to the extreme above.

baring in mind we have up to 11  tables going what tends to happen is a 'seat of death will sometimes develop. a chipped up table will lose a player and lowest chips from another table gets moved in. they have well below the average and lack information on the deep stacks at their new table. consequently they may get knocked out quite quickly. once this has happened a couple of time it becomes a seat of death until the taqble gets broken or another one is broken and a big stack gets put in by chance.

Actually I don't find the shortest chips thing that bad:

1) If i'm shortest chips i'm obviously not doing to well so a new table could be just what i need.
2) If a short player is moved to my table then I don't have to worry too much about them - if a huge stack was placed there it could be very worrying, especially as you are feeling out how they are playing at that point.

Quite right.  :)up


Ramsgate  Grosvenor... It's the shortest stack that gets moved when we have a pot limit freeze-out  :dontask:

This is why its always best to ask before the tournament starts. When i enter a tourney at a casino for the first time i will always ask them:

1) How many chips do you start with
2) How long are the blind levels
3) How long is the rebuy period (obviously ignore this for freezeout tourneys)
4) What is the blind structure
5) What is the policy for re-balancing tables
6) What order are the tables broken up in

The answers for all the above questions will change from casino to casino and all are very relevant for planning a tournament strategy before the game begins......

This was a private live tourney, in which the guy running it, was'nt sure if it was correct to move the bb blind as he was by far, the chip leader.
My freind argued aganist moving him for this reason.
He was moved due consensus of the other players.
I've informed my friend that this was correct, thanks guys.

Personally if i am a short stacked i dont mind being moved to a table where there are several big stacks - usually it means that the big stacks will be a little more willing to gamble against me as i cant damage them much to start with and therefore more often than not i will be all-in with the best hand.

And also it gives me a better chance of winning the tournament even though i am the short stack as if i am lucky enough to start rebuilding my stack then i am at the table which could provide me with enough chips to be in a very strong position come late in the tournament.

Another reason why its best to find out before the tournament starts as it will save misunderstandings and arguements once the tournament has got underway. The rules should always be in place before the tournament begins - even if its just a small home game with 5 of your mates!! making it up as you go along will always end in trouble.....

Trouble averted on this occasion  :D

Yes but you probably still had a few disgruntled players, especially the one arguing that the large chip stack needs to stay where he is so he could win some of his chips back!!

Knowing the rules before the tournament begins and having them enforced properly means that no-one can even be disgruntled (though in my experiences of playing live tournaments there will always be a disgruntled player at every table even though he knew the rule to begin with!!  :D)

Is that a confession? :D

lol, no not me - monkeys are very non-emotional, placid creatures!! :)

 ;iagree;

No matter the size of my own stack, I always want to be on the table where the chips are.

monkeys placid creatures lol :)   only when they have a banana in their hand or having the nuts ;)

Anyways onto the subject hehe   I move the big blind purely for the reason that its fair to all players and they know that
if they are in my tournament they could be moving .  I always break tables from the back of the room towards the front so that its
easier aswell.

Blind levels are clear and on the poker clock showing time of level, next break, what next level will be, ave chip stack, how many chips in play etc to help
poker players work out what chip stack they need for final table chips

I think in all fairness moving the small stack is unfair as they could be heavily picked on, on their new table just for being the short stack.  Big blind could
have been chip leader on the table they were on before the move but hey pokers a beach ;)

Simple rule - never leave home without one!! ;)

As stated i would move the Big Blind into the worst position so that they get blinded as soon as possible, making sure they don't get an advantage by missing another round of blinds.

If I have got 8 8 and 7 and table 3 losses one making it 8 8 and 6 then the first table that finishes that hand out of the two 8s gets the big blind moved.

So if you're UTG on one of the 8's and are happy where you are. When a player crashes out on the 7 handed table, you should take a wee while to think about what to do with your cards.  :D

If your smart enough, however if you are concentrating that much on the other table to know that they have lost a player, then i would think it doesn't matter where you sit lol. All seriousness though something else could happen on the other table i.e. the other table of 8 may lose one therefore he is going regardless. I don't tell the table i want the Big blind until the hand is over. This usually works until some wannabe TD shouts "lost another one" at the top of his voice trying to get my attention :D. If I can see that he is slowing the game down, trying to avoid the move, then he is probably favourite to go anyway, as he is taking the pee out of me, and the format of the comp.

Just making it clear that I meant that last post toungue in cheek.

I do think that....


....is not true. A smart player wants the best seat, best table and know which one it is. Although I do think that in a tournament you should trust to chance and do nothing to manipulate which seat you'll be in. There are far more important things to worry about anyway. (I think this is pretty much the point you were making anyway. I'm just in a pedantic, waiting for midnight, mood)

This...


..is classic  :)up  Screw the strokers  :D



I think I pay far less attention to other tables than the average player. Especially when approaching the final table. If 4 players stand up to watch an all-in confrontation on another table when the tournament is hand for hand. I'm usually the chappy left sitting down trying to chat up the dealer.

You definately wouldn't like notts gala then  :D

Sod chatting the dealers up, just nick their chips. They will soon keep their eye on the game :D :D

That was a joke ....I do not endorse chip nicking!!!!! /:-|

Is that coz the dealers are all bowfing woofters?

that broadway dealer was a lovely fella ;)  kept passing me aces  tel no is .......