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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2006, 02:41:55 PM »

It all depends on where you play - and whether we are talking live or online.

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Notts Gala its shortest chips that moves. we moan and complain and plead but still it's shortest chips.

Ramsgate  Grosvenor... It's the shortest stack that gets moved when we have a pot limit freeze-out 
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2006, 02:51:29 PM »

This is why its always best to ask before the tournament starts. When i enter a tourney at a casino for the first time i will always ask them:

1) How many chips do you start with
2) How long are the blind levels
3) How long is the rebuy period (obviously ignore this for freezeout tourneys)
4) What is the blind structure
5) What is the policy for re-balancing tables
6) What order are the tables broken up in

The answers for all the above questions will change from casino to casino and all are very relevant for planning a tournament strategy before the game begins......

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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2006, 03:04:30 PM »

This is why its always best to ask before the tournament starts. When i enter a tourney at a casino for the first time i will always ask them:

1) How many chips do you start with
2) How long are the blind levels
3) How long is the rebuy period (obviously ignore this for freezeout tourneys)
4) What is the blind structure
5) What is the policy for re-balancing tables
6) What order are the tables broken up in

The answers for all the above questions will change from casino to casino and all are very relevant for planning a tournament strategy before the game begins......


This was a private live tourney, in which the guy running it, was'nt sure if it was correct to move the bb blind as he was by far, the chip leader.
My freind argued aganist moving him for this reason.
He was moved due consensus of the other players.
I've informed my friend that this was correct, thanks guys.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2006, 03:05:56 PM »


The guys left on the table don't have much chance winning the tournament do they?


Personally if i am a short stacked i dont mind being moved to a table where there are several big stacks - usually it means that the big stacks will be a little more willing to gamble against me as i cant damage them much to start with and therefore more often than not i will be all-in with the best hand.

And also it gives me a better chance of winning the tournament even though i am the short stack as if i am lucky enough to start rebuilding my stack then i am at the table which could provide me with enough chips to be in a very strong position come late in the tournament.
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2006, 03:08:42 PM »

This is why its always best to ask before the tournament starts. When i enter a tourney at a casino for the first time i will always ask them:

1) How many chips do you start with
2) How long are the blind levels
3) How long is the rebuy period (obviously ignore this for freezeout tourneys)
4) What is the blind structure
5) What is the policy for re-balancing tables
6) What order are the tables broken up in

The answers for all the above questions will change from casino to casino and all are very relevant for planning a tournament strategy before the game begins......


This was a private live tourney, in which the guy running it, was'nt sure if it was correct to move the bb blind as he was by far, the chip leader.
My freind argued aganist moving him for this reason.
He was moved due consensus of the other players.
I've informed my friend that this was correct, thanks guys.


Another reason why its best to find out before the tournament starts as it will save misunderstandings and arguements once the tournament has got underway. The rules should always be in place before the tournament begins - even if its just a small home game with 5 of your mates!! making it up as you go along will always end in trouble.....
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2006, 03:14:58 PM »

This is why its always best to ask before the tournament starts. When i enter a tourney at a casino for the first time i will always ask them:

1) How many chips do you start with
2) How long are the blind levels
3) How long is the rebuy period (obviously ignore this for freezeout tourneys)
4) What is the blind structure
5) What is the policy for re-balancing tables
6) What order are the tables broken up in

The answers for all the above questions will change from casino to casino and all are very relevant for planning a tournament strategy before the game begins......


This was a private live tourney, in which the guy running it, was'nt sure if it was correct to move the bb blind as he was by far, the chip leader.
My freind argued aganist moving him for this reason.
He was moved due consensus of the other players.
I've informed my friend that this was correct, thanks guys.


Another reason why its best to find out before the tournament starts as it will save misunderstandings and arguements once the tournament has got underway. The rules should always be in place before the tournament begins - even if its just a small home game with 5 of your mates!! making it up as you go along will always end in trouble.....
Trouble averted on this occasion  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2006, 03:20:24 PM »

Yes but you probably still had a few disgruntled players, especially the one arguing that the large chip stack needs to stay where he is so he could win some of his chips back!!

Knowing the rules before the tournament begins and having them enforced properly means that no-one can even be disgruntled (though in my experiences of playing live tournaments there will always be a disgruntled player at every table even though he knew the rule to begin with!!  Cheesy)
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2006, 03:24:30 PM »

Yes but you probably still had a few disgruntled players, especially the one arguing that the large chip stack needs to stay where he is so he could win some of his chips back!!

Knowing the rules before the tournament begins and having them enforced properly means that no-one can even be disgruntled (though in my experiences of playing live tournaments there will always be a disgruntled player at every table even though he knew the rule to begin with!!  Cheesy)
Is that a confession? Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2006, 03:28:30 PM »

lol, no not me - monkeys are very non-emotional, placid creatures!! Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2006, 04:40:35 PM »


Personally if i am a short stacked i dont mind being moved to a table where there are several big stacks - usually it means that the big stacks will be a little more willing to gamble against me as i cant damage them much to start with and therefore more often than not i will be all-in with the best hand.

And also it gives me a better chance of winning the tournament even though i am the short stack as if i am lucky enough to start rebuilding my stack then i am at the table which could provide me with enough chips to be in a very strong position come late in the tournament.


 

No matter the size of my own stack, I always want to be on the table where the chips are.
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2006, 04:47:06 PM »

monkeys placid creatures lol Smiley   only when they have a banana in their hand or having the nuts Wink

Anyways onto the subject hehe   I move the big blind purely for the reason that its fair to all players and they know that
if they are in my tournament they could be moving .  I always break tables from the back of the room towards the front so that its
easier aswell.

Blind levels are clear and on the poker clock showing time of level, next break, what next level will be, ave chip stack, how many chips in play etc to help
poker players work out what chip stack they need for final table chips

I think in all fairness moving the small stack is unfair as they could be heavily picked on, on their new table just for being the short stack.  Big blind could
have been chip leader on the table they were on before the move but hey pokers a beach Wink

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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2006, 05:01:30 PM »

monkeys placid creatures lol Smiley   only when they have a banana in their hand or having the nuts Wink


Simple rule - never leave home without one!! Wink
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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2006, 05:35:58 PM »

As stated i would move the Big Blind into the worst position so that they get blinded as soon as possible, making sure they don't get an advantage by missing another round of blinds.

If I have got 8 8 and 7 and table 3 losses one making it 8 8 and 6 then the first table that finishes that hand out of the two gets the big blind moved.
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2006, 09:58:34 PM »

So if you're UTG on one of the 8's and are happy where you are. When a player crashes out on the 7 handed table, you should take a wee while to think about what to do with your cards.  Cheesy
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2006, 10:09:13 PM »

So if you're UTG on one of the 8's and are happy where you are. When a player crashes out on the 7 handed table, you should take a wee while to think about what to do with your cards.  Cheesy

If your smart enough, however if you are concentrating that much on the other table to know that they have lost a player, then i would think it doesn't matter where you sit lol. All seriousness though something else could happen on the other table i.e. the other table of 8 may lose one therefore he is going regardless. I don't tell the table i want the Big blind until the hand is over. This usually works until some wannabe TD shouts "lost another one" at the top of his voice trying to get my attention Cheesy. If I can see that he is slowing the game down, trying to avoid the move, then he is probably favourite to go anyway, as he is taking the pee out of me, and the format of the comp.
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