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To be announced tomorrow. I await optimistic posts..

Not sure people who have not had him manage their team realise just how arrogant he is

Never takes responsibility for anything and always working to his own agenda

I am optimistic that he won't be in the job for much more than one year.

This is very optimistic, as i'm sure he will be on £6m per year at least until the next World Cup.

FA would have to pay him off if they sack him.

I am optimistic i backed him for the job :-)

I think he'll do reasonably well.  He doesn't care about not playing fashionable football, I can see him not putting up with some rubbish that other managers have. 

For me the problem is the FA. 

Everyone would be over the moon if we played as badly as Portugal, drew every game 0-0 and got to a major final surely?  Big Sam is the man for that for sure.  I like the appointment.  The other way hasn't worked for 20 years after all.  What we got to lose?  Can't be any worse than the joke summer we just had.

Can't be any worse than Hodgson who was abysmal.  Think he'll set us up solidly which is good enough for quarter finals in a World Cup and we rarely get beyond that normally even under "top" managers.

Arbboy in nailing it shocker.

What has he ever won?
Will repeat what he did at West Ham and alienate all fans by telling the media how many crosses his team put in and how they entered the opponents area on 37 occasions after losing 3-0
He is a joke who has worked the media spectacularly well to enhance a reputation he doesn't deserve,kept Bolton in the top division,barely,for a few years with the help of a very generous chairman
Can't believe people fall for the "Sam is always up to date with the latest medical/coaching technology" crap

Will be busy trying to arrange games in Dubai as we speak

Yeah this. So-called top managers haven't achieved sod all. Perhaps it needs someone who just doesn't give a fk about upsetting people.

Didn't play the West ham way lolazza did he?   What chance did he have?  Pretty hard to argue big sam wasn't one of the first in the EPL early doors to take on board fully what is considered as standard now off the field prozone/nutrition/mental coaching etc etc as the half time slice of orange was in the 1980s.

What will you ever win if you always manage sides with tiny budgets and small clubs?  Stupid argument.  How much does he over achieve each season points wise compared to what he should EV wise.  Pulis the same.  Will never win anything but always over achieves year after year.  How else can you judge a manager's relative success.  Like asking why a 10p/20p cash game grinder doesn't win as much as Trickett every year playing cash.  Level playing fields required to use that simplistic method one thinks.

Do I have to get the 'lolazza' crap every time I post?

I offered you £1k at evens on ur '1.01 shot' and u and Chompy didn't want to know

Anyway won't bother posting again can't be arsed , and people don't understand why the forums dead maybe should look at how new posters are treated
GL

See you tomorrow lolazza.  I haven't posted it for ages.  Forum is flying hasn't been busier for months.

Awful appointment.

Although it's more telling that there's fuck all out there of English talent at the top level. Bruce interviewed as well? Bloody hell is is that bad!?

Absolutely.

Devastated Wenger didn't get it... But very optimistic Sam can get more out of a potentiality decent bunch of kids.

Don't you think AW will be the next option if big sam fails in 2 years?  AW probably wants a couple more years at Arsenal (even if you, and thousands of other Arsenal fans, don't want him) and then move onto a huge part time final role as a final pension pot. 

I think so.

Look he is a great coach. End of. He doesn't have to spend money as England Manager or worry about balancing the books.
On that basis, he is Taylor made.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36851259

It's the players who need to improve.

We have zero truly world class players who would walk into any top international team.

Pretty sure

Our team > Russia
Our team > Wales
Our team > Slovakia
Our team > Iceland

Etc etc, definitely down to more than not having world class players.

Mentality?

England players don't need to ne hungary for it when you have kids running about driving bentleys and earning more in a week than the average Joe Public gets per year.

Yep Arb nailed it earlier  in the post as far as I'm concerned and no problem with this appointment at all.

Let's remember it is the worst job in football, & Sam has taken it for one reason only - it's a pension, & a handsome pension.

What football manager worth his salt would rather manage England than a decent Premier League side?

I very much doubt on £2.5m a year basic Sam is better off taking this job financially then staying at Sunderland.  If he is it will be very marginal.  Always find it amazing how the foreign guys like Sven and Fab (who did only come for the money) were getting 2 or 3 times what an English guy would get for the same job.

McClaren, Hodgson and Sam on a fraction of what those two foreign chaps got paid.

Such a lazy argument. Pretty much all the Welsh lads came through the same academies and would have been paid no less at the same age. Didn't seem to stop them. Can't imagine the teens in Spain or Italy aren't getting paid well either.

Allardyce on record years ago that he wanted the England job and nothing to do with the £££.

Agree with that. No correlation  between wages  and England's failings as far as  I'm concerned.

Pretty sure Bale and Ramsey earn half decent money

Sam Allardyce to take England reins, but only after Arsene Wenger turned FA down

telegraph had the scoop

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/20/sam-allardyce-to-take-england-reins-but-only-after-arsene-wenger/

He seems the best out of a bad bunch. Regardless of winning trophies, he seems to do the job he's been asked to do. Plus, he's the manager who'll give the players a rocket up their ass.

Can't be/do much worse than what we've had to endure for the last 20 odd years.

Would like to see Wenger take the reigns when he's finally done with Arsenal, whenever that is.

They can have him in 2025, & not before.

hopefully he will pick irrespective of "name" and "reputation" and on form. Hodgson had a real weakness for picking names from big teams

eg Noble was 5/1 yesterday with betfair to be in his first squad, which i thought was a big price

As early as that? ;)

Ps, was out on the sauce in stunningly beautiful Filey last night with Jackson and Hendrik, they send their regards :)

That sounds like a good night - give them both my best regards, please.

Sadly, Paul Jackson (NTPP) has closed his Diary, which I think is rather sad.

Agree.  I think part of Hodgson's behaviour was from his complete failure with Liverpool.  It was as if he was desperate to prove that he could manage players from the bigger teams and prove everyone wrong.

That might have been mentioned a few times last night ;) we all miss his ''self ego boosting drivel''.

Back on topic, I bet Pep is gutted he won't get to pit his wits against ''the big Sam'' on the opening day. As tighty touched on, at least we should have a manager who picks on merit and form and not reputation or who you play for.

I love big sam for the job, makes a nice change from the past decade or so.

He does remind me of Mike Bassett as well.