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We are down to 8 in the final.  I have about 60k in chips my opponent has about 50k. Average is about 35k blinds .5k/1k.  My notes on opponent are "a bit fishy" - don't know what he did to deserve that or when he did it, but he must've displayed at least inexperience at some time.  However, he has made the final of a $500 tourny in good chip shape.   

I miniraise from early position with Ac Aspades

(I miniraise a lot in the later stages of tournaments whether it's right or not is a different debate)

I obviously hope to get a reraise, but on this occasion I get a middle position caller, a cutoff call and the BB makes up.  hmmmmm

Flop:  Tc 8s 4c

I bet 9k

Middle position folds, Cutoff with 50k goes all-in without hesitation, button folds.

Back to me for a decision.

What would you do?

   

What are the blinds?

post amended thanks

(Was going to say "can't you read")

Tough one that, but I'm tempted to call. I'd say that it's a "feel"  situation.

On a slight tangent, I noticed an impostor playing on Laddies recently called "Karabina".

What a liberty !  ;karabiner;

Karabina, could just be a fan?

As for the decision, it is a difficult one. The temptation not to fold a pair of aces must be great, also with 2 clubs on the board there is an outside chance of a flush. I am fairly sure that I would call, but that isn't to say that this is the right move. If he has a pair of tens you are only at just over 10% to win. If he has two pair you are still only at 30% to win. Of course he could have just have top pair, making you a massive favourite.

I would stick with my first instinct to call.

Instant Call.

To me this a great flop for black aces. He could have 2 clubs but you are ahead and your 1 club takes away an out. If he has a set he flat calls. To me his bet screams KT or KQ of clubs.

How did the hand pan out?

I dispatched that gentleman with a flush draw that came good, thought it was you :D

call

I did call mainly because a drawing type hand was IMO a likely outcome and I couldn't believe a set would be played in that way - I saw  Kc Qc.  (well done Canuck)

I posted this hand mainly because my opponent (in observer chat) appeared to think that I could've folded and I just wanted to check what others would have done.  I was going to reply "I called because my notes said you were a bit fishy", but held my tongue....

I won't ask you all what you would do with AK heads up on a JJT flop ... fold ....fold...fold.....

Still the $10k second prize is taking me to the main event in Monte next week (as long as I can stay away from th Crypto NL for 6 days).



 

Played last night in a local pub game. I get pocket aces and my raise is called. Flop comes up:
 Jc 5d Ks
Short stack has half my amount in chips and goes all in. I am sure he has something but put him on probably having top pair. I call and he shows
 Jh Kc
Life's just not fair. :(
Later on I make a raise of 5 times the blind with Jack Ace and I am called by a  ;fish; with King Seven. Flop comes up with a King. Then I make a pair of queens and same player beats me two hands in a row with a better kicker and then... oh you don't really want to hear all this and I can't afford the bad beat fine. I just had a bad night and ended up at the bar muttering about fish making bad calls that end up beating me.
 :tikay:
That feels better now I have got that off my chest.

You called, you had the best hand.

What more can you do?

That is a VERY tough one.

For me, its a decision based on who I am playing with. If I feel that I am outclassed, it is an instant call. If I feel that I have the players at my "beck and call" , i possibly fold.

This is the easiest call ive ever seen.
 

If this is a a -EV long term call then im a buddhist monk.

That is a VERY tough one.

For me, its a decision based on who I am playing with. If I feel that I am outclassed, it is an instant call. If I feel that I have the players at my "beck and call" , i possibly fold.


I really dont understand this statement. For me its completely incorrect.

I believe M3Boy is saying that if the players he is playing against are better then him and that hand comes up...get the chips in the middle as quick as possible.

If the players he is playing against are not as good as him...why take the chance of a miracle flop versus aces for some other player and risk his life when if he folds he will win later in a hand with less risk

I may be wrong though lol

The only hand he can have is a drawing hand. There is no thought process needed, he has 8 outs, you have to call. It doesn't matter the skill level of the opponents, you aren't going to be able to get them in being in much better shape unless you are luckier than most. I'm not that lucky so I call... quickly :)

 ;iagree;

I next to never reply on the hand analysis board, but feel that to only put him on a drawing hand is wrong,

If you have only min raised you are still going to have all sorts of hands coming along with you to see a relatively cheap flop, what’s to say he didn’t have pocket 4’s?  Yes the standard play is to check a set, but with you betting pot before him, and 2 flush cards out, I wouldn’t want you having any easy decisions to make if was me as the other player.

It’s easy for us play the hand knowing that you had AA, but he has no idea that you did.  To him it could of just as easily been the other way round and put you on the drawing hand, and was making it a big price for you to see if you can hit.   

You are right it is possible, but it is rare that someone makes such a massive overbet with a set. So much so that this is still a very clear call.

Note to self - massivly overbet a set next time you get one against flushy, he'll take you as being on a draw and you'll have him drawing to two outs.

Exactly my point Matt, so many people do what the norm is now, that you have to find other ways of getting paid off. The massive overbet looks just as much like you've missed, and don't want a call.

one of the reasons why i read some of the posts in this section but very very rarely post here. The only person who can truthfully answer the question set is the person who was at the table at the time. They are the only ones who knew how each individual had been playing during that tournament/cash session.

One of the most annoying things in poker is that people dont always play how you expect them to, fortunately thats what makes the game so interesting and challenging at the same time and will what brings us back for more time after time!! :)

Go ahead, i will still need a hand to call you! You are better of flat calling and letting me nluff you...

Note to self - This is a bluff on Flushy's part in an attempt to get me to not overbet the set next time we play. Now he knows i know he knows that this is how i'll play it........

Your move squire ;)

Well i agree calling is right here. I agree with ginger to say there is no way they don't have a set here is pushing it. I play my sets very aggressively for this very reason, as people never think i will play a set like that. It is an oft used tool by the multitabling low NL cash players. As you get paid off by top pair and overpairs all the time.

Raise

 ;slavedriver;

Yep, been caught with that one myself recently, had to congratulate him when I called with 2 pair. Im not a big cash game player just occasionally dip my toe in the water, caught me hook line and sinker with this play, it looks very fishy.