Hand from Ladbrokes Sunday lunch final

[dpommo]

The only hand he can have is a drawing hand. There is no thought process needed, he has 8 outs, you have to call. It doesn't matter the skill level of the opponents, you aren't going to be able to get them in being in much better shape unless you are luckier than most. I'm not that lucky so I call... quickly

[Royal Flush]

The only hand he can have is a drawing hand. There is no thought process needed, he has 8 outs, you have to call. It doesn't matter the skill level of the opponents, you aren't going to be able to get them in being in much better shape unless you are luckier than most. I'm not that lucky so I call... quickly

 

[Ginger]

I next to never reply on the hand analysis board, but feel that to only put him on a drawing hand is wrong,

If you have only min raised you are still going to have all sorts of hands coming along with you to see a relatively cheap flop, what’s to say he didn’t have pocket 4’s?  Yes the standard play is to check a set, but with you betting pot before him, and 2 flush cards out, I wouldn’t want you having any easy decisions to make if was me as the other player.

It’s easy for us play the hand knowing that you had AA, but he has no idea that you did.  To him it could of just as easily been the other way round and put you on the drawing hand, and was making it a big price for you to see if you can hit.   

[Royal Flush]

I next to never reply on the hand analysis board, but feel that to only put him on a drawing hand is wrong,

If you have only min raised you are still going to have all sorts of hands coming along with you to see a relatively cheap flop, what’s to say he didn’t have pocket 4’s?  Yes the standard play is to check a set, but with you betting pot before him, and 2 flush cards out, I wouldn’t want you having any easy decisions to make if was me as the other player.

It’s easy for us play the hand knowing that you had AA, but he has no idea that you did.  To him it could of just as easily been the other way round and put you on the drawing hand, and was making it a big price for you to see if you can hit.   

You are right it is possible, but it is rare that someone makes such a massive overbet with a set. So much so that this is still a very clear call.

[matt674]

I next to never reply on the hand analysis board, but feel that to only put him on a drawing hand is wrong,

If you have only min raised you are still going to have all sorts of hands coming along with you to see a relatively cheap flop, what’s to say he didn’t have pocket 4’s?  Yes the standard play is to check a set, but with you betting pot before him, and 2 flush cards out, I wouldn’t want you having any easy decisions to make if was me as the other player.

It’s easy for us play the hand knowing that you had AA, but he has no idea that you did.  To him it could of just as easily been the other way round and put you on the drawing hand, and was making it a big price for you to see if you can hit.   

You are right it is possible, but it is rare that someone makes such a massive overbet with a set. So much so that this is still a very clear call.

Note to self - massivly overbet a set next time you get one against flushy, he'll take you as being on a draw and you'll have him drawing to two outs.

[Ginger]

I next to never reply on the hand analysis board, but feel that to only put him on a drawing hand is wrong,

If you have only min raised you are still going to have all sorts of hands coming along with you to see a relatively cheap flop, what’s to say he didn’t have pocket 4’s?  Yes the standard play is to check a set, but with you betting pot before him, and 2 flush cards out, I wouldn’t want you having any easy decisions to make if was me as the other player.

It’s easy for us play the hand knowing that you had AA, but he has no idea that you did.  To him it could of just as easily been the other way round and put you on the drawing hand, and was making it a big price for you to see if you can hit.   

You are right it is possible, but it is rare that someone makes such a massive overbet with a set. So much so that this is still a very clear call.

Note to self - massivly overbet a set next time you get one against flushy, he'll take you as being on a draw and you'll have him drawing to two outs.

Exactly my point Matt, so many people do what the norm is now, that you have to find other ways of getting paid off. The massive overbet looks just as much like you've missed, and don't want a call.

[matt674]

one of the reasons why i read some of the posts in this section but very very rarely post here. The only person who can truthfully answer the question set is the person who was at the table at the time. They are the only ones who knew how each individual had been playing during that tournament/cash session.

One of the most annoying things in poker is that people dont always play how you expect them to, fortunately thats what makes the game so interesting and challenging at the same time and will what brings us back for more time after time!!

[Royal Flush]

I next to never reply on the hand analysis board, but feel that to only put him on a drawing hand is wrong,

If you have only min raised you are still going to have all sorts of hands coming along with you to see a relatively cheap flop, what’s to say he didn’t have pocket 4’s?  Yes the standard play is to check a set, but with you betting pot before him, and 2 flush cards out, I wouldn’t want you having any easy decisions to make if was me as the other player.

It’s easy for us play the hand knowing that you had AA, but he has no idea that you did.  To him it could of just as easily been the other way round and put you on the drawing hand, and was making it a big price for you to see if you can hit.   

You are right it is possible, but it is rare that someone makes such a massive overbet with a set. So much so that this is still a very clear call.

Note to self - massivly overbet a set next time you get one against flushy, he'll take you as being on a draw and you'll have him drawing to two outs.

Go ahead, i will still need a hand to call you! You are better of flat calling and letting me nluff you...

[matt674]

Go ahead, i will still need a hand to call you! You are better of flat calling and letting me nluff you...

Note to self - This is a bluff on Flushy's part in an attempt to get me to not overbet the set next time we play. Now he knows i know he knows that this is how i'll play it........

Your move squire

[Longy]

Well i agree calling is right here. I agree with ginger to say there is no way they don't have a set here is pushing it. I play my sets very aggressively for this very reason, as people never think i will play a set like that. It is an oft used tool by the multitabling low NL cash players. As you get paid off by top pair and overpairs all the time.

[Royal Flush]

Go ahead, i will still need a hand to call you! You are better of flat calling and letting me nluff you...

Note to self - This is a bluff on Flushy's part in an attempt to get me to not overbet the set next time we play. Now he knows i know he knows that this is how i'll play it........

Your move squire

Raise

[matt674]

Go ahead, i will still need a hand to call you! You are better of flat calling and letting me nluff you...

Note to self - This is a bluff on Flushy's part in an attempt to get me to not overbet the set next time we play. Now he knows i know he knows that this is how i'll play it........

Your move squire

Raise

 

[Arkwright]

Well i agree calling is right here. I agree with ginger to say there is no way they don't have a set here is pushing it. I play my sets very aggressively for this very reason, as people never think i will play a set like that. It is an oft used tool by the multitabling low NL cash players. As you get paid off by top pair and overpairs all the time.

Yep, been caught with that one myself recently, had to congratulate him when I called with 2 pair. Im not a big cash game player just occasionally dip my toe in the water, caught me hook line and sinker with this play, it looks very fishy.