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Title: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: moritzey on February 28, 2006, 11:45:31 PM Ok, I find friendlies difficult to predict, as winning isn't really that important to either side, but there seem a few
obvious ones and some nice value bets, too, so here you go: Russia - Brazil: Russia @ 4.5, they're playing in Moscow and it'll be freezing. Ronaldinho and Dida not playing for Brazil makes the game a lot more balanced, too, so I think the 4.5 is definitely nice value. USA - Poland: US @ 2.5 - don't think they have quite grasped the concept of a frindly yet, and will be going for a win, whereas the Polish league hasn't even started yet, so half of their places are still in hibernation mode... Ireland - Sweden: Draw @ 2.9 - I'd consider Sweden by far the superior team at this point, however Ireland with the new coach will be more determined to go for a win, and also Ljungberg missing, and Ibrahimoiv can't win the game on his very own now, can he? Senegeal - Norway: Senegal @ 1.8 - not great odds, but a pretty easy pick considering Norway's appaling form recently, think 1.8 is quite good considering how much of a favourite Sengeal should be. Germany - Italy: Although it hurt me a little, I went for the draw @ 2.80 .. Italy is in great form, but Totti missing and Germany on the other hand has yet to win a game against one of the other big 'uns. The draw seems good value. Turkey - Czechs: Czech Republic to win @ 2.5 - quite a few turkish players missing and their recent international performance was quite poor against a highly motivated team. Also set up a little accumulator with all teams as above, except for the Italy - Germany game (secretly still hoping for a German win there ..). Well, will find out soon enough what my 7 quid to start-of with got turned into.. predictions anyone? I'm willing to take bets ;) Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: TightEnd on March 01, 2006, 01:15:52 AM A personal motto: Never EVER put my money whether earned or ill gotten on friendly matches.
It's a hornet's nest of soft play, football style That said, if you put a gun to my head, I'd always go for the draw...irrespective of the match...look at ther stats for the incidence of draws in friendly matches.... Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: vampitup on March 01, 2006, 10:49:46 AM A personal motto: Never EVER put my money whether earned or ill gotten on friendly matches. It's a hornet's nest of soft play, football style That said, if you put a gun to my head, I'd always go for the draw...irrespective of the match...look at ther stats for the incidence of draws in friendly matches.... Agreed totally. Draws must be the favourite in these games. Anyone thinking of backing england tonight @1/2 needs their head examined. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Indestructable on March 01, 2006, 08:00:34 PM Agreed, you just don't know how hard the teams wil try. Will Uruguay get stuck in, or are they on a nice holiday. Steer well clear, but come on England! l
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Colchester Kev on March 01, 2006, 08:12:18 PM Disagree, get the mortgage on england, they dare not lose this game.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Colchester Kev on March 01, 2006, 08:45:32 PM superb goal ... i might have to do a mystery and delete my post :D
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Indestructable on March 01, 2006, 10:14:47 PM No need, enjoy your winnings.
:D Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: moritzey on March 01, 2006, 10:56:10 PM 1:4 against Italy, that was painful...
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Indestructable on March 02, 2006, 06:37:38 AM Don't think I will be going for the home team this year.
:D Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 02, 2006, 10:09:19 AM Out of 3 teams for this years World Cup
Argentina, Brazil or England. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 02, 2006, 10:24:10 AM England no chance for the world cup. We will never win anything all the time he's in charge, Should have got rid of him straight away after it all came out in the papers and got Physco in. Mark my words after this world cup and when stuart pearce takes over just sit back and watch the difference in style of play, Passion and motivation. The fella is a born winner and that will have a lot of effect on the way we approach games Physicaly and mentaly.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Colchester Kev on March 02, 2006, 10:31:22 AM I hate to say it, but I agree, I just wish england played with as much passion as the supporters bring to the game .. How many times do you scream at your telly during an england game saying " ffs get in there , get stuck in and go for it" sooooooooooo frustrating... then you look at the bench and the woodentop is just sat on his arse looking at the floor. GET PSYCHO IN !!!
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 02, 2006, 01:55:10 PM You 2 havin' a laugh or what? When our boys play a game which matters, then they play well. With a fit Rooney, Owen, Lampard and Gerrard, we can beat any team including Brazil. Keegan had 'passion and motivation' but he was useless, forget about Pearce, he isn't good enough, yet.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: matt674 on March 02, 2006, 02:58:52 PM we can beat any team including Brazil. rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao Watching this world cup from a neutrals prespective is going to be so funny!!! Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Colchester Kev on March 02, 2006, 04:49:21 PM Nem, i used to own the same pair of rose tinted specs that you now own, England players are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, and when things are going wrong in a game, they need someone to change things and re organise, Sven is blessed with having the best crop of players that any manager has had for a very long time... and i just dont believe he uses them right. i dont doubt his ability to prepare a team for a game, but its during the game and at half time that you need a motivator and a passionate manager.
do yourself a favour, dont build your hopes up of us winning the world cup... expect us to qualify from the group stage and then anything above that is a bonus. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 03, 2006, 10:20:47 AM Why isn't Stuart pearce good enough yet ? He is good enough for a top half premier league side so why not England ?
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: vampitup on March 04, 2006, 01:27:34 AM Nem, i used to own the same pair of rose tinted specs that you now own, England players are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, and when things are going wrong in a game, they need someone to change things and re organise, Sven is blessed with having the best crop of players that any manager has had for a very long time... and i just dont believe he uses them right. i dont doubt his ability to prepare a team for a game, but its during the game and at half time that you need a motivator and a passionate manager. do yourself a favour, dont build your hopes up of us winning the world cup... expect us to qualify from the group stage and then anything above that is a bonus. Agree, Kev. If England do well in the world cup it will be despite Eriksson not because of him. If we can lose to Northern Ireland in a competitive game how can we beat the likes of Brazil etc? Suddenly one lucky win v Argentina and we can win the world cup according to most. We have a good, if not great team but a poor bench and the worst manager in the competition. How many other top 10 teams squads would Crouch, Jenas (and I am a spurs fan too), Green, James, Hargreaves, even Defoe get into? As for Crouch, he has had one good half season for Southampton and how long is he going to live off that for? People forget he couldnt even get on the bench for a poor Villa side and how many goals has he scored for Liverpool this season? Get all your money and lay england on the exchanges. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 04, 2006, 05:06:36 AM Why isn't Stuart pearce good enough yet ? He is good enough for a top half premier league side so why not England ? He hasn't got enough experience yet. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 04, 2006, 10:14:57 PM So Jurgen Klinsman can get a job as German manager without managing a club side, Marco van basten can get a job as Dutch manager without managing a club side but Stuart Pearce (manager of Man city) hasn't got enough experience to manage England ?? RUBBISH course he's got enough experience. At least he has got experience at club level which is more than can be said for the other 2 mentioned above.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: moritzey on March 05, 2006, 06:11:43 PM So Jurgen Klinsman can get a job as German manager without managing a club side, Marco van basten can get a job as Dutch manager without managing a club side but Stuart Pearce (manager of Man city) hasn't got enough experience to manage England ?? RUBBISH course he's got enough experience. At least he has got experience at club level which is more than can be said for the other 2 mentioned above. Well, you saw what happens when you get an inexperienced manager (Germany - Italy, anyone? :( ) Anyway, 97 days left to sort out all our problems and win that cup ... Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 05, 2006, 06:42:10 PM So Jurgen Klinsman can get a job as German manager without managing a club side, Marco van basten can get a job as Dutch manager without managing a club side but Stuart Pearce (manager of Man city) hasn't got enough experience to manage England ?? RUBBISH course he's got enough experience. At least he has got experience at club level which is more than can be said for the other 2 mentioned above. The two you've just mentioned were panic appointments. Germany needed a "Big name" German manager for their World Cup and the same for Holland. Stuart Pearce has been in football management for less than 1 whole season and you want him to manage the England national team LOL. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 06, 2006, 12:35:51 AM Panic appointments ?? So if Germany must have a BIG NAME GERMAN and the DUTCH must have a BIG NAME DUTCHMAN, who do the think ENGLAND should have then ? stuart pearce in management for under a whole season ? So obviously you forgot about when he was manager of Notts forest then, where he learnt his trade and did his coaching badges? The only reason england haven't made a panic appointment as you put it is due to the fact sven is tied to a contract and rather than have to pay him off they think it will be a good idea for him to take us to the world cup and if like last time we are 2-1 down with 30 mins to go, keep the same formation not have a shot on goal and crash out of the world cup... Yeah sounds like a great idea to me. So Anyway give me YOUR choice for England manager
Also Replying to Moritzy while i am here. It was a friendly mate how many regulars did Germany have in the team ?? and Italy come to think of it. HERES A THOUGHT WHATS TO STOP A JOINT MANAGEMENT TEAM FROM DOING THE JOB FOR ENGLAND ?? Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: moritzey on March 06, 2006, 01:25:17 AM We had most of the regulars in the team, I'm afraid. Was pretty devastating ... not sure about Italy.
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 06, 2006, 01:53:35 PM So obviously you forgot about when he was manager of Notts forest then. They got relegated and he got sacked. So Anyway give me YOUR choice for England manager Guus Hiddink. Stuart Pearce's managerial career Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn Man City 11-03-2005 Present 42 18 13 11 Nottm Forest 20-12-1996 08-05-1997 23 7 7 9 65 25 20 20 Pretty average if you ask me. Also, he learned his coaching badges at Man City NOT Nottingham Forest. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 06, 2006, 01:56:57 PM HERES A THOUGHT WHATS TO STOP A JOINT MANAGEMENT TEAM FROM DOING THE JOB FOR ENGLAND ?? When has a joint management team done any good? Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 06, 2006, 06:44:42 PM Why would you want another foreigner ? why not someone who's English with plenty of passion and very good. Stuart pearce took over at Notts forest in 96 at the end of Dec (how many teams have stayed up that have been bottom of the league at the turn of the new year) and he won manager of the moth award for January whilst studying for his level 2 and uefa B license but could not save them from going down. I aint saying gus hiddink isn't a good manager but to be fair anyone could have managed psv and real madrid back in the day when they were far superior to all the other teams in their respective leagues,Even when he won things with Holland they were the best footballing side in Europe without doubt.
I still say get someone ENGLISH. and the best man for the job is STUART PEARCE COME ON PHYSCO Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 06, 2006, 06:50:11 PM If we went down the English route, I would want Sam Allaydce as Englands manager. He is by far the best English manager out there. I want the best manager for the job, it doesn't matter if he is English/Indian or even Scottish ::)
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 06, 2006, 06:50:18 PM When has a joint management team done any good?
Not saying they ever have, but you keep on about how Stuart pearce isn't good eough yet to mange Engalnd so why not put him in charge along side someone how you think is good enough. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: pokerdave69 on March 06, 2006, 06:56:04 PM Give me your reasons why alladyce is the best english manager out there by far, without mentioning the way Bolton play football (which works for them but would definatly not work for England)
Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 06, 2006, 06:56:32 PM When has a joint management team done any good? Not saying they ever have, but you keep on about how Stuart pearce isn't good eough yet to mange Engalnd so why not put him in charge along side someone how you think is good enough. It is proven that you cannot have 2 managers. The England managers job is just to early for Pearce. Believe me I would want Pearce in the job, because he is a legend, but atm their are better qualified managers out there with more experience. Title: Re: Tomorrow's friendlies Post by: Nem on March 06, 2006, 07:02:36 PM Give me your reasons why alladyce is the best english manager out there by far, without mentioning the way Bolton play football (which works for them but would definatly not work for England) Alladyce is the best English manager around. He is the English equivalent of Arsene Wenger. He has turned has beens, players with bad attitudes, old men and rejects into the 6th best team in the Premier League . Also, Bolton were in the old 2nd division when he took over in 2001, now they are in Europe whilst on a Blue Peter transfer budget. |