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Title: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: ACE2M on March 29, 2006, 11:56:03 AM Morning sports junkies
Whats the opinion on this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4855752.stm Is the wba more prestigous then ibf? Shame he should just ditch the belt that he won in his greatest fight. What if he loses the fight? Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 04:59:17 PM Well, IBF is a more prestigous belt than the WBA. He whats to move up to Welterweight as there are 'bigger' fights waiting for him there. However, that means fighting Mayweather which would result in Hatton getting absolutely destroyed. IMO of course...
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: AdamM on March 29, 2006, 05:01:51 PM didnt you say the same about Calzaghe in his last fight mate? ;)
He's unlikely to retire unbeaten but no-one will ever 'destroy' Ricky Hatton in the ring. tha man is top class. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 06:25:17 PM didnt you say the same about Calzaghe in his last fight mate? ;) He's unlikely to retire unbeaten but no-one will ever 'destroy' Ricky Hatton in the ring. tha man is top class. I agree that Hatton is top class, but Mayweather is in a different league (boxing wise) and will just out box Hatton. Each time Hatton tries to charge or get in close Mayweather will just dance round him and pick him off at will. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 06:30:57 PM The Zab Judah Vs Mayweather fight on 8/4 will be a great fight, with the winner likely to fight Hatton next year.
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 29, 2006, 06:34:39 PM Well, IBF is a more prestigous belt than the WBA. He whats to move up to Welterweight as there are 'bigger' fights waiting for him there. However, that means fighting Mayweather which would result in Hatton getting absolutely destroyed. IMO of course... Got to disagree as the WBA (black) belt is historically the one that was the original heavyweight title. The WBC (green) broke away as Europe was being neglected and the IBF (Red) only came about in the 80's to try and oust the other two. The other one Hatton holds is the WBO (Brown) belt. This one IS less prestigious than the other three. Is that the one you were on about? Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 06:40:21 PM Yeah sorry. I meant the WBO belt.
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 29, 2006, 06:43:46 PM He is suppose to be fighting Luis Collazo for the WBA welterweight crown before he even gets near Mayweather.
I think thats what ACE2M's link probably says. I can't get it for some reason. Isn't Sugar Shane Mosley in Hattons new division ( when he moves up that is ) I like the way mosley, hopkins, de la hoya ( sp) and barrera .. all promote their own fights under GOLDEN BOY promotions. Very clever move. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 06:45:54 PM Mosley fights under 153lb (Light Middleweight)
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 29, 2006, 06:47:25 PM Was he not World Champ at welter weight a few years ago?
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 06:50:20 PM Yep, but I guess he finds it hard to make the weight now that he is 34
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 29, 2006, 06:51:28 PM I liked that weight division a few years ago. there was some great fighters
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 06:53:07 PM What time span? 98-02?
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 29, 2006, 08:24:22 PM My favorite time was the period when Shane Mosley, Trinidad, Forrest, De la Hoya and Ricard Mayorga were fighting .
Most of these have retired, I think Mayorga is the only one still around. And Mosley, but he is nowhere near the fighter he once was . Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 08:27:07 PM De La Hoya is fighting in June at Welterweight
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 29, 2006, 08:31:52 PM De La Hoya is fighting in June at Welterweight I thought he had retired. who is he fighting? . Alot of people think sports people just compete for the money. This is a perfect example of a sportsman competing for the love of the sport. Surely he makes enough from Golden Boy promotions. So it must be because he still loves the sport rather than just the money.. I remember the 4 round fight against Chavez in 95 ... that was some cut that chavez had.. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 08:35:17 PM 2006-05-06 Ricardo Mayorga 28-5-1 @ MGM Grand Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, NV, USA WBC Light Middleweight belt
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 29, 2006, 09:08:04 PM He may meet Hatton one day then
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 29, 2006, 09:09:48 PM He may meet Hatton one day then There's definitely money in the Welterweight, Light Middleweight divisions. Some big fights soon... Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 30, 2006, 12:34:53 AM De La Hoya is fighting in June at Welterweight I thought he had retired. who is he fighting? . Alot of people think sports people just compete for the money. This is a perfect example of a sportsman competing for the love of the sport. Surely he makes enough from Golden Boy promotions. So it must be because he still loves the sport rather than just the money.. I remember the 4 round fight against Chavez in 95 ... that was some cut that chavez had.. Completely disagree. De La Hoya set up Golden Boy specifically for money. The fight with Hopkins who outweighed him and was miles closer to his peak - money. Original fight with Trinidad - money. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 30, 2006, 04:46:12 PM No this wasn't what I was meaning, mate.
If de la hoya has come out of retirement. It can only be for the chance to win again and an another title. He has enough money, why else would he want to fight again other than for more success. He doesn't need the money, he wants more success.. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 30, 2006, 05:35:36 PM No this wasn't what I was meaning, mate. If de la hoya has come out of retirement. It can only be for the chance to win again and an another title. He has enough money, why else would he want to fight again other than for more success. He doesn't need the money, he wants more success.. Well this is what I mean. If he wanted more success why fight a washed up Hopkins? It's lose-lose. If he wins people say Hopkins is washed up. If he loses they'll say he isn't as good as Hopkins. It's why Lennox never fought a blown up Roy Jones Jr at heavyweight. I think the $10 million each they were offered (as well as %'s of TV revenues coming to a lot more than $10 million when you consider the HUGE hispanic population who tune in) may have had something to do with it!! Time will tell. If De La Hoya only comes back to fight a name rather than some young and hungry champion, the world will know that money is now his motivation. It has been for the last 5 years IMO. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 30, 2006, 05:45:21 PM I thought Jones was fighting Hopkins at some point this year?
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 30, 2006, 05:53:48 PM I thought Jones was fighting Hopkins at some point this year? I heard something similar. TBH I'm not half as interested as I would have been 6 years ago when they had the "TV Deal" thing live on TV. They really were the best in the world then. Shame they couldn't agree. Hopkins ego over Jones beating him years ago meant that he wouldn't take less thean 50%. Now Hopkins is the only one anywhere near what he used to be. He'll murder Jones. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: lvlarc_uk on March 30, 2006, 10:55:21 PM Jones is shot to pieces, hes totally gun-shy like Wlad Klitschko, but Wlad can pack a punch.
The belts dont mean much these days, its the fighter that makes the belt. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 30, 2006, 11:13:19 PM Jones is shot to pieces, hes totally gun-shy like Wlad Klitschko, but Wlad can pack a punch. The belts dont mean much these days, its the fighter that makes the belt. Agreed except in the heavyweight division where the WBO belt means nothing. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 31, 2006, 01:48:29 AM The whole Heavyweight Division means nothing, they're all fish.
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 31, 2006, 04:03:20 AM Amen to that!
Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on March 31, 2006, 04:14:31 AM When Lennox retired I thought that Harrison was the next big thing for UK Heavyweight boxing, but the guy is a comedy, how could he lose to Julius Francis ffs.
Hopefully David Haye can fly the flag. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: The Baron on March 31, 2006, 04:19:59 AM When Lennox retired I thought that Harrison was the next big thing for UK Heavyweight boxing, but the guy is a comedy, how could he lose to Julius Francis ffs. Hopefully David Haye can fly the flag. I think we'll have to wait a long while for the next heavyweight golden era. It's all about Mr Kahn. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: I KNOW IT on March 31, 2006, 08:17:46 AM I remember seeing Audrey H at the Lennox vs Tyson fight in Memphis. Iwent over to chat and remarked that he would have a lot of responsibilty following on after the great man (Lennox) retires.
He was going on as if he was already Heavy weight champion, (he d had about 10 fights at that point). I walked away thinking what an A$$ hole. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Sark79 on March 31, 2006, 05:11:35 PM I thought this was an interesting story
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4864262.stm Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: ACE2M on April 12, 2006, 09:57:52 AM So hatton fights collazo on 13th may.
This collazo has some weaponry i hear, i really hope hatton can get through this and probably gatti coz the a fight between him and mayweather to unify the lot will be utterly amazing, i'm excited even thinking about it. Nemesis... where can i download fights? i would like to watch the mayweather v judah fight. Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: Nem on April 12, 2006, 12:53:51 PM i would like to watch the mayweather v judah fight. I watched it last night and without doubt, Mayweather is the best pound for pound fighter in the world. http://fights.worldboxingvideoarchive.com/ If you want to watch the fights live, for £1.20 http://streamtvnow.com Title: Re: Hatton ditching the ibf Post by: ACE2M on April 12, 2006, 02:04:07 PM i would like to watch the mayweather v judah fight. I watched it last night and without doubt, Mayweather is the best pound for pound fighter in the world. http://fights.worldboxingvideoarchive.com/ If you want to watch the fights live, for £1.20 http://streamtvnow.com nice one nem |