Title: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Rod on August 22, 2014, 03:51:06 PM 180 Man final table - what should my calling range be here when the SB shoves into me.
PokerStars Hand #120444413167: Tournament #957166840, $2.28+$0.22 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1250/2500) - 2014/08/22 15:09:13 WET [2014/08/22 10:09:13 ET] Table '957166840 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Rafa margez (6326 in chips) Seat 2: StepToLuck (40616 in chips) Seat 3: SNGN (35676 in chips) Seat 4: dizlike (25210 in chips) Seat 5: 33teetwo33 (35064 in chips) Seat 6: yobsik (60516 in chips) Seat 7: Tibichelie (16770 in chips) Seat 8: zahamowany (21990 in chips) Seat 9: m.sandor85 (27832 in chips) Rafa margez: posts the ante 250 StepToLuck: posts the ante 250 SNGN: posts the ante 250 dizlike: posts the ante 250 33teetwo33: posts the ante 250 yobsik: posts the ante 250 Tibichelie: posts the ante 250 zahamowany: posts the ante 250 m.sandor85: posts the ante 250 dizlike: posts small blind 1250 33teetwo33: posts big blind 2500 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to 33teetwo33 [] yobsik: folds Tibichelie: folds zahamowany: folds m.sandor85: folds Rafa margez: folds StepToLuck: folds SNGN: folds dizlike: raises 22460 to 24960 and is all-in Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2014, 04:37:20 PM QJs+
Ax 77+ IMHO but don't quote me on that I aint played a hand of poker for a few months Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: dreenie on August 22, 2014, 04:41:30 PM I'd get it in with
K9ss+ 55+ Ax Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Longy on August 24, 2014, 11:23:14 AM This varies so massively depending on opponent, that it is hard to give an answer.
You got any reads? Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Sulphur man on November 22, 2014, 05:16:47 PM This varies so massively depending on opponent, that it is hard to give an answer. This. Could opr him and get more reads than you give. So hard to answer with basically no information. And i will be calling this pretty tight still as we have just landed on the final have always found that even though stacks are short we don't need to push the action. Just get into a good position to get a top 3 finish first off.You got any reads? Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: verndog158 on November 22, 2014, 05:27:10 PM not my area of expertise, not that i have one to be fair. prawn identity would be the best man for this i feel!
Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Sulphur man on November 22, 2014, 06:42:26 PM Calling tighter than so far suggested. Granted people will jam a little wider now they have landed at the FT.
We are 4th in chips so really see no need to call wide. Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Sulphur man on November 22, 2014, 06:58:22 PM Initial thoughts were to call this jam with 77+,AQ+,AJs+
Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Sulphur man on November 23, 2014, 12:09:39 AM Initial thoughts were to call this jam with 77+,AQ+,AJs+ Just had a really good laugh at how tight that is but absolute nits are going to nit.Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: theprawnidentity on November 23, 2014, 05:10:36 AM Hi der. Obviously depends on how wide we imagine the villain is going to shove. But if we go in order from wide to tight:
Some villains will shove ATC in this spot, giving us a calling range of: (45.9%) 33+,A2+,K2s+,K3o+,Q3s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J8o+,T8s+,T9o If villain is slightly competent, they should be shoving somewhere round nash optimal which looks like: Villan Shoving Nash (Optimal): (68%) 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q5o+,J2s+,J7o+,T2s+,T6o+,93s+,96o+,84s+,86o+,73s+,76o,63s+,65o,52s+,43s Hero Call: (29.1%) 44+,A2+,K6s+,K8o+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs If we then give him a much tighter range than nash, something like: (32%) 22+,A2+,K5s+,K8o+,Q8s+,Q9o+,J9s+,T9s Then we should be calling off with: (11.2%) 55+,A8s+,A9o+,KQs Completely readless, I think I would be happy calling it off with somewhere in the region of 20% of hands to be on the safe side. With regards of wanting to call it off tighter, I wouldn't hesitate to stick it in wide here because the pay jumps between 9th and 4th are relatively small. I would be looking to take some fairly small edges in these spots to try and give ourselves a decent stack and a much better chance of getting HU where you can actually make some $$$. Title: Re: SB vs BB 180 man spot Post by: Rexas on November 23, 2014, 11:20:08 PM Hi der. Obviously depends on how wide we imagine the villain is going to shove. But if we go in order from wide to tight: Some villains will shove ATC in this spot, giving us a calling range of: (45.9%) 33+,A2+,K2s+,K3o+,Q3s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J8o+,T8s+,T9o If villain is slightly competent, they should be shoving somewhere round nash optimal which looks like: Villan Shoving Nash (Optimal): (68%) 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q5o+,J2s+,J7o+,T2s+,T6o+,93s+,96o+,84s+,86o+,73s+,76o,63s+,65o,52s+,43s Hero Call: (29.1%) 44+,A2+,K6s+,K8o+,Q9s+,QTo+,JTs If we then give him a much tighter range than nash, something like: (32%) 22+,A2+,K5s+,K8o+,Q8s+,Q9o+,J9s+,T9s Then we should be calling off with: (11.2%) 55+,A8s+,A9o+,KQs Completely readless, I think I would be happy calling it off with somewhere in the region of 20% of hands to be on the safe side. With regards of wanting to call it off tighter, I wouldn't hesitate to stick it in wide here because the pay jumps between 9th and 4th are relatively small. I would be looking to take some fairly small edges in these spots to try and give ourselves a decent stack and a much better chance of getting HU where you can actually make some $$$. Very good post :) |