Yes please.

Rumours are you are using investors money to spin up on 3/6 and 5/10.. confirm/deny pls?

Who said anything about spinning up looked like spewy spinning down while i was railing....

FML the Penlo-Rub! Though spewy is putting the early part of the session kindly!

Still at least the stakers will be getting some mad $$ from 5/10 rake to make up for their shortfall in actual roll.

Rumours are you are using investors money to spin up on 3/6 and 5/10.. confirm/deny pls?

Who said anything about spinning up looked like spewy spinning down while i was railing....

Definitely discretionary i've frequently had live stakes sent to me on stars and been able to withdraw the full amount to my Neteller, never had a cashout questioned. Been a bonafide Supernova for 2 or 3 years maybe they've taken that into account.

Funny how all the judgemental comments come after the reveal.

riverdave don't know you but yr attitude is a real shame have a nice life

I put my mistakes on here to have constructive criticism not snobbish put downs

I only read this thread after the reveal my comments would have been the same if one of them turned over 7756, the point is after the preflop call and action this is a ridiculous scared fold.

Regards your other comment you were the one that gave me attitude in the other thread suggesting i had ignored all previous debate.

I guess my underlying point was that there was little point debating with you so that'll be my last comment on the subject.

yeh too weak to put in 20% of stack probably

anyway

poonjoe: folds
swooshdog4: calls $25.70 and is all-in

*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***

swooshdog4: shows   (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Kutila: shows (a flush, King high)
Kutila collected $252.40 from pot

Was thinking of entering into debate with you on the other PLO thread now i've just read this don't think i will bother. This is just so ridiculously bad pls don't ever cashout kthx.

Sigh...

It often seems that people post a reply without reading the debate that has gone before.

To reiterate:

Inexperienced player              = very very often a flush
Pot odds for pair-up               = very poor
Implied odds for pair-up          = poor
Value of preserving stack        = high

Total                                    = surprisingly clear fold when you break the problem down

I read the whole thread still lolling hard at a lot of it. That said everyone has a right to a view, but i think most of your assumptions are wrong.

The long run optimum EV play here non opponent specific with these stack sizes is to obv shove everytime. Maximise fold equity and our allin on the flop EV isn't too bad if we get called. That's pretty much the end of it as we don't really know anything about this specific opponent.
I think i like folding better than calling as Cos says it's so exploitable by a thinking opponent. Unless we can be certain oppo switches off all bluffs/non flushes on turns and maybe gives us a free card with weak flushes and is also going to pay us off some of the time when it pairs up calling is just pretty much horrid given stacks.

But what do you do against an inexperienced opponent?

Almost certainly shove because an inexperienced opponent is very unpredictable, if they don't know what they are doing how are you supposed to??

The long run optimum EV play here non opponent specific with these stack sizes is to obv shove everytime. Maximise fold equity and our allin on the flop EV isn't too bad if we get called. That's pretty much the end of it as we don't really know anything about this specific opponent.
I think i like folding better than calling as Cos says it's so exploitable by a thinking opponent. Unless we can be certain oppo switches off all bluffs/non flushes on turns and maybe gives us a free card with weak flushes and is also going to pay us off some of the time when it pairs up calling is just pretty much horrid given stacks.

Ok Silo Graham, MC, gatso, Eck and Chip Prince all paid full amounts today on Stars, all please confirm receipt.

Jakally and Wardonkey both your accounts seem to have the same issue with receiving transfers as i've experienced with Robert and CP. Can you look into it and let me know if it can be sorted or alternatives.

Bongo i'll get some FT $ when i can cash out of Stars in the next 24 hours hopefully. Anyone in contact with RobertHM?

Presume you are referring to BP account?
I've got Stars & FTP accounts - both jakally - if that's any use.

No sorry i was referring to trying to xfer you on Stars, i only have Stars $ at the moment.

Currently still owed:

Bongo $360.36
jakally $360.36
Wardonkey $240.24
RobertHM $245.70

Ok Silo Graham, MC, gatso, Eck and Chip Prince all paid full amounts today on Stars, all please confirm receipt.

Jakally and Wardonkey both your accounts seem to have the same issue with receiving transfers as i've experienced with Robert and CP. Can you look into it and let me know if it can be sorted or alternatives.

Bongo i'll get some FT $ when i can cash out of Stars in the next 24 hours hopefully. Anyone in contact with RobertHM?

Dave pretty sure they have some good homeless shelters, gl.

sure can stay overnight its signing on day thurs morning LDO

I meant Shallow

Multi purpose rubs

Dave pretty sure they have some good homeless shelters, gl.

sure can stay overnight its signing on day thurs morning LDO

can someone confirm is there a super sat tomorrow afternoon and is it 100 plo rebuy in the evening? saw somewhere that it was a nl freezeout weds but elsewhere plo rebuy.