[If he was to value bet and the OP comes over the top and he 3 bet shoved he is lesslikely to call than to shove as he did.]

if he has the nuts, does he never think value betting rather than shoving? as if we have AA here which our line kinda looks like, we are never calling the river shove? So that kinda makes me want to call, like he's floated a two club, King Ten high flop that he can rep the nuts later on that we NEVER CAN HAVE. Also thoughts on flatting the 3bet pre at 25/50 or would that be horrible?

Far better line to take here shoving than to value bet.  He looks weak by doin this and the OP is more likely to call.

If he was to value bet and the OP comes over the top and he 3 bet shoved he is lesslikely to call than to shove as he did.

After the turn there's 13k in the pot and hero has 10k left so that river action would be a surprising development.

You are indeed correct.  I for one should not have skim read.

Anyway on another front the said same person that played this hand against the OP is on the fT.

Surprised that earlier in this thread someone mentions they are a friend of the OP and Sam Grafton (Villain accord to OP) told them their line of thought but find it strange they felt they would not post it??

On another front I have played aginst Sam more than enough times that even if I did not feel he had it with his river shove I would still  not call as he has game and game enough that he varies it enough you do not know where you are, hence final table.  The OP to this done right IMHOin whichever way you look at it by folding, he still has morethan enough BB's to carry on.

GL Sam and I am sure he will divulge all when he is done.   Here is his post on the GS  Forum and other answers from those that have played against him. http://gutshot.com/bforum/showthread.php?t=35882

if he has the nuts, does he never think value betting rather than shoving? as if we have AA here which our line kinda looks like, we are never calling the river shove? So that kinda makes me want to call, like he's floated a two club, King Ten high flop that he can rep the nuts later on that we NEVER CAN HAVE. Also thoughts on flatting the 3bet pre at 25/50 or would that be horrible?

Far better line to take here shoving than to value bet.  He looks weak by doin this and the OP is more likely to call.

If he was to value bet and the OP comes over the top and he 3 bet shoved he is lesslikely to call than to shove as he did.