Blatchly has been posting to the Facebook group under the name "Mark Hawkins", when he was rumbled he deleted all the messages from the Facebook page.

The guy is still scamming you all. It's more of the same. One of you needs to sit down with him face to face, ask him to show you his online
bank accounts, bank statements, credit card statements, Betfair accounts and any other accounts he has. If he's willing to do that and answer
questions about why he was joking about grimming all the time and transferring funds from the trading account. I'm 100% sure he wouldn't
do this but it would prove he's a normal human being if he did.

In other words, I think it needs to be established he isn't a sociopathic conman before you even consider handing over your bank details
(although Blatch if he was genuine would  understand that at this point in time a bank draft or cheque is a better option for repayment).

One of you arrange a friendly meeting with Blatch and a family member of his who could speak for Batch regarding repayment.

Mods here check when he logs in the IP address to make sure its still in England and the slimey git hasnt got out of the country, this is not illegal and very easy to track down the exact address

Can't trust an IP address. Check mine mods - it should say Moscow.

As mentioned yesterday his IP address has been checked, several times. We also do not look at IP addresses in isolation.

None of this information can be divulged.

Nobody asked you to. They just want you to check he's in England.

Apologies if the following questions are stupid or irritating - I have read the whole thing, and my commiserations to all those involved, but I might well have missed something.

Is it still not possible after all Floppy's work to calculate how much money was lost on the Betfair account and how much was outright stolen? Am I right in thinking that nobody has added up exactly how much money was sent to him, and no-one can find out even with access to the account how much was deposited and withdrawn (on top of the figures that were dumped)?

P&L is -43,584.20

Though some of this was dumped from one account to another.

The admins should check the logs to see if he was been reading it all or posting to the thread under another username.

To all his friends who are sticking by him, why on earth would you stick by him when he's still conning people?

He's still lying about whether it was a con from the start or at least that he intended to gamble the money not trade it.
He's still lying about whether he benefited, he added a lot of it to his own account and went on a 5 star holiday, of course
he benefited.
He's still trying to con people, looking for sympathy here and telling lie upon lie.

He is a sociopath and a recidivist and there is no hope for him. He is not a mate, never was a mate.

Another thing, did nobody question what would happen in the event of a powercut or a Betfair outage?

You'd want to have another account someplace at the ready to avoid losing all your dough. It could easily happen,
I and others on Betfair have been burned before and learned a very serious (but obvious) lesson.

Not sure if this is relevant but just googling his name came up wit this -

Neil John Blatchly in the Leicester CC 332 of 2007

Now i dont know what it means and it may not be him, but is cc crown court?

Possible judgement against him for bankruptcy.

Look at his horrible head.

This guy was waving 50s around, splashing out on drinks for everyone and behaving like a prat and you guys trusted him?

He sounds like a complete twat. Is this the norm in the poker world? Waving money around like a vulgar rap star?

We can't even be sure the spreadsheet is real so we are going to change the email address on the account and re-request everything and check the history of deposits.

There are no card details on the site which means he has deleted them.

So he's covering his tracks yeah?

I'll just simplify the advice I gave, it's the only hope you'll get any of your money back and it's the only hope you'll stop your "friend" from getting himself into trouble
in future. 1 - Contact Betfair's security department. 2 - Contact the police.

You're doing him, yourself and the people who have lost money a favour by doing it. There's no reason not to involve the police. None whatsoever.

If it's fraud followed by syphoning money between accounts then it's money laundering - if Betfair fall under any financial authorities jurisdiction at all they will really really want to help clear this up

Yep. Good point.

If I was down 10k I'd have been on to the police and Betfair already and I'd be calling around to Blatch's house, not for violence but to speak to him and get the full truth out of him. It might
be impossible but if he feels under enough pressure he might show you his online bank accounts, his Betfair accounts and you might get to see how he lives.

We can't even be sure the spreadsheet is real so we are going to change the email address on the account and re-request everything and check the history of deposits.

There are no card details on the site which means he has deleted them.

So he's covering his tracks yeah?

I'll just simplify the advice I gave, it's the only hope you'll get any of your money back and it's the only hope you'll stop your "friend" from getting himself into trouble
in future. 1 - Contact Betfair's security department. 2 - Contact the police.

You're doing him, yourself and the people who have lost money a favour by doing it. There's no reason not to involve the police. None whatsoever.

I just saw Greekstein's post above, have you and other people gone completely f****** insane?

The guy is lying to you every step of the way. He's trying to buy time and as somebody else said the only thing he's sorry about
is the fact he got caught. Don't believe a word he says. It's just another part of the con.

Horrified reading this thread for many reasons. First of all, it's clear to me this was scam from the beginning. The guy is clearly a sociopath and was out
for your money from a long way out. The Betfair log shows he was transferring money from one account to another. That's not in question.

I'm also horrified at the naivety of some people here. On one level it's heartwarming that in a game where vast amounts of money involved people are
willing to accept people's word and "reputation" as a bond but you will always get sociopaths who will abuse this. To them, it was their money to
begin with, they don't consider it stealing and many of you are easy targets.

Some steps to take:

1- RING Betfair's security department. Give them the account details and explain to them what has been going on. Refer them to this thread. It would
be best if somebody on Betfair with a premium account (2%) commission rate did this. At the very least Betfair's terms and conditions will have been
broken and it may be possible to freeze the account Blatch was siphoning money off to while the issue is being investigated. However, you have
delayed so much it's likely Blatch has withdrawn it all and is doing is level best as we speak to cover his tracks and hide away whatever he can. Ask
Betfair for a contact in the police or to have a detective call you immediately. Make sure when you're talking to Betfair you mention you are contacting
your solicitor on Monday morning and you will expect Betfair to take all reasonable steps to prevent further fraud and investigate this. For the average
punter Betfair will do their best to fobb them off and issue a standard reply. DON'T let them do this. Make sure they understand the seriousness of
the fraud.

2- As above, speak to the police asap. There have been multiple frauds committed here and it's very clear what this guy has been up to. It's likely
that what is known about on this thread isn't the full extent of his fraudulent activities and the police will uncover this in the process. Obtaining 10s of thousands
of pounds from investors, siphoning the money off for personal use and continuing to take money in in the process is very definitely a crime. This is
a biggish fraud with a relatively simple and inexpensive investigation. A detective will snap your hand off for it.

Don't delay. Do all of this now.