There has only been 5 games out of 12 where the draw was value.  Only one massive value (wade v whitlock tonight the best by a mile as it was a proper 6/4 6/4 4/1 game) if wade was sober it would probably have landed.  It was done at 5/4 inrunning so no excuse on that one not to have made a profit or at least had a risk free bet.

Massive sigh at preston!!!!  When are they going to hold on for a result?

laid crawley at 18/1 in running for £200.  Seriously who are these feckers backing this stuff.  Would love to meet them.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/18/squad-sheets-manchester-united-crawley-town

Can manutd get bigger than 1.18 given fergie has said he will play a 'similar' team to the one he played against Southampton? 

Its fa cup days that usually give the best value in the short ones.  All the hype and nonsense about it being a leveller.  Stats prove over 15 years (Pullien as usual - i think in his book) that there are no more or fewer shocks than there should be statistically yet teams like ManUtd get pushed out to prices they would be to beat teams 2 or 3 leagues higher than the ones they are actually playing.

obviously but fergie very rarely disrespects the FA cup.  He values it still and remembers it saved his job way back in the day.

Manutd at 1.12 on bf just looks too big.  There have been times they have been 1/8 at home in the premier league never mind to a non league side.  Crawley look a great lay at 33/1.

no value in the draws tonight hence why i didnt get involved.  You need both players to be 11/8 or bigger for there to be value in the draw at 4/1 like there was last week.  Every fav was odds on tonight 3 way so nothing in the draws which is why i didnt get involved.

hells bells obv was keeping him slim.  Poor lad probably struggles to get laid now.

anyone got any views for tonight.  Struggling to get excited about it tbh.

someone run the numbers taking out all the king flushes and i am sure its a def gamble spot given the price.  I am still convinced he is never making the 4bet with the nut flush on the flop into 2 players.

what hand did he have fwiw?

do 'level 1' thinking players really 4 bet the flopped nuts to scare off 2 players?  I assume by level 1 players you mean donks?  Virtually every shit player i have ever played would flat call in that spot 3 handed.  Even shit players know when they cant get beat (obv they can with a paired board but level 1 players dont think like that) and dont scare fellow players off.

agree with skol flat calling is the worse move because the hand cant improve and if u flat his raise on the flop surely u are just check calling to the river unless the miracle 4 flush comes on the turn to save you.  ie stacking off bar the change so you might as well get it in first surely?