I had Dawson to win by Decision. That was a complete farce, in no way was that a TKO, Hopkins hurled to the ground, unable to continue due to injury (fake or not) so ref rules a TKO win for Dawson. Should have been a NC/ND or even a Hopkins win by before a Dawson TKO.  WTF 

I'll be surprised if the commission doesn't overturn the result as a NC. What stance will the bookies take?

Ye Button has been great this season with managing his tyres. Last week Hamilton pitted early as they thought he had picked up a puncture but it was just bad tyre degradation.  40/1 is a great price, fancy a Hamilton/Button 1-2 myself, also maybe laying Vettle for podium at 1.4...as Redbulls used up an extra set of softs in qualifying they're trying a different strategy, could screw them in the final laps with everyone else on the faster tyre. The 2nd half of this season has been quality.

Laid Hamilton to lose £15 @ 2.50 Betfair

One area where you can sometimes get an edge is in watching interviews and reading body language and, whilst I am no expert, Lewis hamilton really looked to me in his interview after final qualifying today like he didn't believe he could win.  I have no idea whatn is going on with him in his private life but he is just a completely different driver these days.  I know the season is over effectively but getting on pole should be a reaosn to be happy.  He looked like he wanted to go home.

I took an opposite view from that. Infact I've never seen Hamilton seem so focused during a race weekend. He avoided a few interviews in the practice sessions and he was silent on radio after topping qualifying....never seen that before. I think we are seeing him come through the toughest times of his career, he's rid some demons and found his old form.

Also, noticed you backed Button before qualifying, to win the race. I've done the same a few times this season, only to find his odds increase come race time. As Button hasn't claimed pole since Monaco 09, this happens alot....

Do you use f1's live timing? Great tool when betting in play on betfair, even moreso with the asian gp's as the TV coverage tends to be delayed enough to find good value in the fastest lap and finishing markets.

Ah ok thanks, they have so many damn markets I must've overlooked it...£300 down the drain mehhh

Which site? I had UTD to win 4-1 at 30/1, tried laying off on betfair but they only offer up to 3-3 on correct score

What a farce. Sports personality of the year my arse, it's the horse that does most of the work anyway!

Must be thousands of toffs phoning up or a fix.

The shortlist..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/sports_personality_of_the_year/6166600.stm

Vote Calzaghe!

Argue against what exactly? I don't make this shit up lol. Hatton got $6.5 for Collazo

I didn't say Hatton turned down 13 million. I said that's what his camp wanted for a fight with Mayweatheror and that would be pricing themselves out. Mayweather is only getting 10million for fighting Oscar De La Hoya. Actually the only guy in boxing right now that could get 13million or more is still Oscar and that's including heavyweights.

Also Fight Academy claimed that Hatton got £3.5mill for fighting Collazo so I don't know where your figure of only £2mill came from.

Under trainer Freddie Roach,Manfredo has come on leaps and bounds, he's not the same fighter we saw in the contender a few years back.  He's been morphed into an old school fighter and I would say yes he has looked world class in his last 3 fights, however he will never be ready for Calzaghe as if the best of Joe turns up, he will outclass Manfredo with ease. If Warren doesn't follow this fight up with a fight with Taylor or Kessler I will be pissed. I hope Joe leaves Warren too like Hatton did.

Manfredo is actually a decent fighter. He's improved since the contender under new trainer Freddie Roach (Manny Pacquiao's trainer) and has grown into 168 very nicely. One of his losses coming off the contender to Sergio Mora was a robbery but since then has beaten 2 decent top 25 guys, Pemberton & Spina, both by very impressive 3rd round stoppage.

The only reason Calzaghe is fighting Manfredo is because of the extra exposure he can get on HBO and the Bika fight was dirty.

Frank Warren said after Bika there would be a "mega fight" well he lied. Hopefully he sticks to his word this time and a fight with middleweight champ Taylor is next up, then fight Mikkel Kessler at Super middle to be the first fighter in history to unify all 4 major titles at 168. (tho Joe just ditched the IBF)

Ricky Hatton has never turned down a fight. I remember him being openly critical of frank warrens match making earlier in his career. he wanted a shot at the big boys but for reasons beyond his control, the fights weren't happening. It's not a fighters job to make the fights. they pay people to do that and I'm sure it's not simple.

if you've ever seen training footage of hatton you'll know there'll never be any no such thing as an easy points victory over him. he's trains 15 x 3 minute rounds with Billy Graham wearing a massive full body pad. he hammers it for the full 45 mins. Ricky hasn't got much of a long game (if any at all) but stylish boxers like PBF aren't accustomed to angry mancs within nose biting distance trying to smash a hole in their rib cage.

I remember a lot of amature pundits saying Hatton had no chance against Tszyu. Ricky Hatton will undoubtably be remembered in years to come as one of the greats, and I think he'd fight any big name he could.

I know I bang on about it but the weights in boxing are a joke. light welter weight is 10 st but Hatton will weight almost 11 1/2 st when the bell rings. welterweight fighter will often be over 12st on fight day after weighing in at 10st 7oz. there should be a weigh in on fight day to keep people fighting at the right weight.

as well as fight day weigh ins I think there should be fewer catagories but it'll never happen. boxing people still cling to the belief that half a stone changes the power of a punch. I expect they always will
UFC = Light, Welter, Middle, Light/Heavy, Heavy
Pride = same but no Light/Heavy
with classes like this very few people ever change weight because the jump is too big. anyway, off my soap box

Asking for 13 million = pricing yourself out. This figure has been repeated in many many interviews.

Come on it's blatantly obvious that Hatton doesn't want any part of Mayweather yet, and now it's too late anyway.

Hatton would get outclassed against Mayweather everytime. Did you see his fight with Collazo? They fought on an even keel for 12 rounds, only the knockdown in the 1st won him that fight. Hatton is good with his trainer Billy, but now Graham has left him also.

If Hatton wants to be remembered as an all time great then he better get some more top 5 fighters on his ledger. His 3 moft recent fights.... Maussa, coming off a complete fluke against Vivian Harris, then Collazo undoubtedly the weakest of the 147lb champions. Now he's moving back down as he knows he can't handle the best of 147, and guess what. He's fighting the weakest of the 140lb champions, who got a gift in his last fight to win the belt in the first place.

Boxing will always have more weight classes than UFC & Pride. It's the most global sport, with no lower weight classes there would be no great mexicans/hispanics/asians etc. Boxing could do with cutting down to 12/14 weight classes instead of 17.

The figure came from an interview with Hatton on boxingtalk.com I believe. Lots of different sites keep referring to it. Mayweather has expressed his interest in the Hatton fight in the past. If he can get 5mill for Judah then no doubt he would get enough to fight Hatton. It doesn't matter that they are on different networks unless Hatton had a deal with a rival network, like Showtime.. but he didn't.

Hatton's next fight will be his 3rd on HBO  and if they truly wanted the fight, it would have been made by now, or atleast negotiated. If Ricky wanted any part of Mayweather, he wouldn't be moving back down to 140 now would he. His camp has actually said they want a fight with Castillo at 140 next year. Which would be a great fight, even though Castillo is a lightweight (but struggles to make weight)

Did you watch Gatti-Baldomir earlier this year? I can remember Billy Graham (Hattons trainer) being absolutely gutted with the result as they wanted a "superfight" with Gatti instead.

Well PBF has beaten Castillo & Corrales albeit more than 3 years back.

Baldomir was rated 1 by almost every single ranking including "The Ring" as he beat the undisputed champion Zab Judah so you can't really fault Mayweather for fighting him.

To be honest many fans are getting fed up of Floyd for cherry picking fights recently, but Oscar is a bigger challenge than any other welterweight. Oscar is 33 yes, but is coming off one of the most impressive wins of his career, totally dominating Mayorga. It will be Mayweathers first fight at 154 too. This fight will be big for boxing and do well for Floyd's legacy, shit Hopkins beating Oscar at middleweight did him good. Don''t forget that Oscar brings in more cash from PPV sales and tickets sold at gate, than any other boxer in history, excluding a few heavyweights. This fight is expected to do over 1.5 million PPV's and may even beat Tyson-Holyfield II that did 1.9m.

You can't blame Mayweather for not fighting Hatton as Ricky has turned down the fight in the past, reason being he wanted to build his name up in America on HBO. He also said he would want $13million, which is rediculous. Now it looks like Ricky has missed the boat though as Floyd stated recently that he will be retiring after his fight with Oscar. Definetly premature and will damage his legacy.

The reason Mayweather is fighting Oscar is because of the $$$ and legacy.