anyway..do you think they had the K and the Q of diamonds? or maybe the K and a set? i cant understand at least one player's call...but is there a way to see mucked hands on tribeca?!

Vertigo 10475280-11870 Holdem Limit $4/$8
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Hand Start.
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Seat 2 : chickster66 has $307.27
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Seat 3 : fishguts333 has $490
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Seat 4 : remix06 has $185.75
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : fishguts333 is the dealer.
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : remix06 posted small blind.
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : chickster66 posted big blind.
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Game [11870] started with 3 players.
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Nov 10 11:37:10] : Seat 3 : fishguts333 has
[Nov 10 11:37:13] : fishguts333 called $4 and raised $4
[Nov 10 11:37:15] : remix06 called $6
[Nov 10 11:37:17] : chickster66 called $4
[Nov 10 11:37:18] : Dealing flop.
[Nov 10 11:37:18] : Board cards [ ]
[Nov 10 11:37:20] : remix06 checked.
[Nov 10 11:37:22] : chickster66 bet $4
[Nov 10 11:37:24] : fishguts333 called $4 and raised $4
[Nov 10 11:37:26] : remix06 called $8
[Nov 10 11:37:27] : chickster66 called $4
[Nov 10 11:37:28] : Dealing turn.
[Nov 10 11:37:28] : Board cards [ ]
[Nov 10 11:37:30] : remix06 bet $8
[Nov 10 11:37:31] : chickster66 called $8 and raised $8
[Nov 10 11:37:33] : fishguts333 called $16 and raised $8
[Nov 10 11:37:35] : remix06 called $16
[Nov 10 11:37:37] : chickster66 called $8
[Nov 10 11:37:37] : Dealing river.
[Nov 10 11:37:37] : Board cards [ ]
[Nov 10 11:37:39] : remix06 checked.
[Nov 10 11:37:41] : chickster66 checked.
[Nov 10 11:37:43] : fishguts333 bet $8
[Nov 10 11:37:44] : remix06 called $8
[Nov 10 11:37:46] : chickster66 called $8
[Nov 10 11:37:47] : Showdown!
[Nov 10 11:37:47] : Seat 3 : fishguts333 has
[Nov 10 11:37:49] : Seat 3 : fishguts333 has
[Nov 10 11:37:49] : fishguts333 has Flush AT932
[Nov 10 11:37:50] : fishguts333 wins $143 with Flush AT932
[Nov 10 11:37:59] : Hand is over.



 >:? >:? >:?

This wasn't intended as any sort of trick question, but in the end I made the call, and he turned over.... 77 for a split pot.

WOO OO i'm a genious 

Don't lead out. Check fold.

i disagree...if you raise preflop and then call a 1800 reraise you cant just hope to hit a set and fold everything else...

anyway.... let's see...after the preflop action there's about 7,5K in the pot...you bet 4K so , when the opponent moves all in he's got about 10K left, so it's 6K to call for you in a 21,5K pot...hard to fold more than 3,5 to 1...but what could he have?

a) total bluff : you are about a 70% favourite against 2 high cards if he's not on the flush draw...he reraised preflop so its very improbable he's got only 1 overcard

b) 2 high cards of clubs : you have a 45% chance to win the pot against 2 overcards of clubs...and with the action we've see AK , AQ of clubs are more than possible

c) higher pair : AA KK QQ JJ are probable here...and you only have about 12% chance against them...

d) under pair-connectors-A9-K9-A6-K6 are very unlikely given the action preflop...

now we have to give a) , b)  and c) a %...

a) i give the bluff a 15% chance...may seem a bit high...but you see a lot of crazy and weird plays online...15% seems about right
b) the flush draw looks possible to me...but nothing more than a 25% chance
c) the higher pair looks to be the more likely hand he's got...60% seems right

so it is ( 15 * 0,7 + 25* 0,45  + 60* 0,12 ) = 0,29 or 29%

the odds were 3,5 to 1 , or 77% .. you have 29....29 +77 = 106 > 100 ( i know how to work with the odds but i cant explain very well    ) ..so it should be a call, but a tough one in my opinion....this because you made a pretty large lead out bet IMO...i prefer to make a small feeler bet ( 2K or something )...the odds change a lot then

obviously if you have any info on your opponent you can change the percentages and decide if callin is a good or bad decision...


all this to say that i play 77 differently though lol 

i use to fold 30% of the times, call 60% and raise 10%...and then decide my actions depending on the table, and my opponent...but i play the 77 UTG very weakly and conservative... i dont like that hand much in that position...

from the same session..

 During current Hold'em session you were dealt 173 hands and saw flop:
 - 25 out of 32 times while in big blind (78%)
 - 25 out of 33 times while in small blind (75%)
 - 60 out of 108 times in other positions (55%)
 - a total of 110 out of 173 (63%)
 Pots won at showdown - 15 of 34 (44%)
 Pots won without showdown - 60+

i MAY be playing a bit too loose....

but i'm up almost 2 buyins 

[theclevermin said, "woo oooo"theclevermin said, "36?"theclevermin said, "ill call 36 with 36"theclevermin: calls $36]

lol thats brilliant

theclevermin said, "woo oooo"
theclevermin said, "36?"
theclevermin said, "ill call 36 with 36"
theclevermin: calls $36

this is just golden! excellent hand indeed

 

and one of the funniest thing came a bit later...when a guy thought i was Jamie Gold...cause he said things like that at the wsop...

jamie gold ..me? yea sure...and i play 1/2 nl on stars lol

[theclevermin said, "ill call 36 with 36"]

not really need to analize this...i was just crazy at that moment....look at the chat with attenction 

PokerStars Game #6763996434:  Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/10/25 - 12:12:35 (ET)
Table 'Tabit IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Ganador ($74 in chips)
Seat 2: Aanold ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: theclevermin ($156.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Horange ($207.80 in chips)
Seat 5: hilbythree ($216.35 in chips)
Seat 6: 42Aces ($139.85 in chips)
Horange: posts small blind $1
hilbythree: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to theclevermin [ ]
42Aces: folds
Ganador: folds
Aanold: folds
theclevermin: raises $4 to $6
Horange: calls $5
theclevermin said, "think i'm adding the same note"
hilbythree: raises $36 to $42
theclevermin said, "woo oooo"
theclevermin said, "36?"
theclevermin said, "ill call 36 with 36"
theclevermin: calls $36
Horange: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
hilbythree: checks
theclevermin: bets $114.05 and is all-in
42Aces said, "36 is good :-9"
hilbythree: calls $114.05
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Horange said, "wow"
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hilbythree: shows [ ] (a pair of Queens)
theclevermin: shows [ ] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
theclevermin said, "lol...it def is good"
theclevermin collected $315.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $318.10 | Rake $3
Board [ ]
Seat 1: Ganador folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Aanold folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: theclevermin (button) showed [ ] and won ($315.10) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 4: Horange (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: hilbythree (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: 42Aces folded before Flop (didn't bet)


that was rude...but couldnt stop laughing 

i actually raise him all in  ...i put him on a straight...

if i dont have any info on my opponent i tend to fold at least 80% of the time , and call the rest of the time...i never push in a cash game preflop with Queens and such a deep stack...pushing is absolutely the worst play here in my opininion

Question 1 : call
Question 2 : Call

Question 3 : i dont know 

thanks for the great updates!!

Forza Dario e Andrea !!

this is a bad call.......that  i do 99% of the times..

Wow...two italians in the last 12....Forza ragazzi!   

Ok...here's the answer...and thanks a lot for the opinions...now i know i was a bit lucky , maybe  

I've been stealing quite a lot of pots since  he joined the table and i dont think i showed a hand...sometime i had it, sometime i didnt...anyway

when he raised preflop he may have had a lot of hands...i saw him raising with 45 suited...and the raise was a bit too big in my opinion..so i called, wishing to hit the flop...

the flop comes not bad for me..and he checks...at this point i think he may have JJ and he's slowplaying...he's pretty capable of doing this...

but on the turn he bets a lot ...making me think he may not want a call..and i call...

the river is a J...at this point i think JJ is pretty improbable ( dont know if its correct...sorry for my english   ) ..i start to think he's bluffing.....i take all the 60 seconds i got and make the call...and cross my fingers....

he shows..  

 

bye!  

How have you been playing for the last 15 hands, since the foe joined the table?

  your getting to the point...

i've played my usual cash game "i raise any two decent cards" game