stinks of a made straight to me, im a bit of a nit would have played the straight the same as him and a straight flush draw. might have slowed down with 2pair on the turn just depends what i thought about the guy i was up against!!  think it was a good fold tbh.

Thanks for the links

Can someone please PM the link. Would love to watch this.

yeah was expecting him to turn over junk but he QQ out flopped him tho. 

Went the same way as flushy and pab were thinking here, thought about just raising but knew i would have to call a shove so just put it all in myself. He instafolded which surprised me a bit he must have called the re-raise pretty light, guess he wasn't quite as solid as i first thought!

Looking of some insight on how ppl would have played this hand. Would probally have been a much easier decision had I re-raised, hindsight is a wonderful thing! No read on the BB it is his first hand, lotteonm is playing tag only got 77 hands on him but seems pretty solid.

***** Hand History for Game 6053489329 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, June 11, 15:58:52 ET 2007
Table Table  128205 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: stephanadam1 ( $331.10 USD )
Seat 2: wyn58 ( $251.87 USD )
Seat 3: God_Of_Gamblers ( $389 USD )
Seat 4: lotteonm ( $200 USD )
Seat 5: WeirdoBeaver ( $203 USD )
Seat 1: ryan_donk ( $46 USD )
stephanadam1 posts small blind [$1 USD].
ryan_donk posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stephanadam1 [  ]
wyn58 folds.
God_Of_Gamblers folds.
lotteonm raises [$8 USD]
WeirdoBeaver folds.
stephanadam1 calls [$7 USD]
ryan_donk is all-In.
lotteonm calls [$38 USD]

I take money off ppl for a living and give them nothing in return, well maybe a smile and a thank you when I'm in a good mood! If you hadn't already guessed i work in a casino.

Great posts fushy and totalise, guess I need to start thinking more!

I like the way you think Alex!

I was thinking along the same lines as alex martin and horneris, I really dont like the flat call here there is to many cards that kill my action. If I 3-bet him on the flop and he just calls it gives me a tricky decision to make on the turn. I went for the shove because im never going to that far behind and I wont have any more decisions to make (thinking hurts my head!).


The Village 10474796-287924 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Hand Start.
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 1 : realdeal888 has $163.61
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 2 : luscos has $229.75
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 3 : Deggsy60 has $222.55
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 4 : sparred has $223.63
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 5 : Rotulla has $288.55
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 6 : teeth0697 has $119.47
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Rotulla is the dealer.
[Feb 26 20:55:37] : teeth0697 posted small blind.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : realdeal888 posted big blind.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : Game [287924] started with 6 players.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : Seat 4 : sparred has
[Feb 26 20:55:43] : luscos folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:45] : Deggsy60 folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:49] : sparred called $2 and raised $6
[Feb 26 20:55:57] : Rotulla called $8
[Feb 26 20:55:58] : teeth0697 folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:59] : realdeal888 folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:59] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 26 20:55:59] : Board cards [ ]
[Feb 26 20:56:06] : sparred bet $15
[Feb 26 20:56:14] : Rotulla called $15 and raised $30
[Feb 26 20:56:20] : sparred called $30 and raised $170.63 and is All-in
[Feb 26 20:56:22] : Rotulla called $170.63
[Feb 26 20:56:23] : Showdown!
[Feb 26 20:56:23] : Seat 4 : sparred has
[Feb 26 20:56:24] : Seat 4 : sparred has
[Feb 26 20:56:30] : Board cards [   ]
[Feb 26 20:56:31] : Seat 4 : sparred has
[Feb 26 20:56:31] : sparred has Straight AKQJT
[Feb 26 20:56:31] : Seat 5 : Rotulla has
[Feb 26 20:56:31] : Rotulla has 3 of a Kind: 10s
[Feb 26 20:56:31] : sparred wins $447.26 with Straight AKQJT
[Feb 26 20:56:39] : Hand is over.

After hitting my dream flop i get re-raised by TAG villain. Was wondering how some of you guys n girls would play the hand and why? Will post what I did and my reasons after I get a few replies.


The Village 10474796-287924 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Hand Start.
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 1 : realdeal888 has $163.61
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 2 : luscos has $229.75
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 3 : Deggsy60 has $222.55
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 4 : sparred has $223.63
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 5 : Rotulla has $288.55
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Seat 6 : teeth0697 has $119.47
[Feb 26 20:55:36] : Rotulla is the dealer.
[Feb 26 20:55:37] : teeth0697 posted small blind.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : realdeal888 posted big blind.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : Game [287924] started with 6 players.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 26 20:55:39] : Seat 4 : sparred has
[Feb 26 20:55:43] : luscos folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:45] : Deggsy60 folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:49] : sparred called $2 and raised $6
[Feb 26 20:55:57] : Rotulla called $8
[Feb 26 20:55:58] : teeth0697 folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:59] : realdeal888 folded.
[Feb 26 20:55:59] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 26 20:55:59] : Board cards [ ]
[Feb 26 20:56:06] : sparred bet $15
[Feb 26 20:56:14] : Rotulla called $15 and raised $30

The villain was a ABC player was only playing around 14% of his hands and raising around 8% of those.

If I was up against 4/5 limper's I would be just check folding a hand like this. There isn't many times when your going to be in-front plus your playing the hand OOP so it makes it even more difficult to know where you stand. Other people might have different opinions but I wouldn't putting much money (if any) into the pot with a hand like this.

As soon as you bet the turn you are teling him you have the Q so you have to pot it to kill his implied odds. This basically loses you your customer, i would check to him because he raised you on the flop and may think he can get you to fold with a turn bet. If he doesn't bet the turn you are mor likely to get a value bet paid off on the end because he won't know if you're bluffing (due to his show of weakness) or value betting, so he will always lose money in that situation.

Never really thought about it like this thanks for the advice.

Say he checks behind on the turn tho what would you do when the board pairs? If you go for a value/blocking bet and he re raises how much are you willing to call as he might have just seen your check on the turn as weakness. Or do you just go for a check call on river if so how much would you call?

Your river play is probably exactly how I'd have played it.

Your 1/2 pot turn bet was a little too small though- you're basically charging him $15 to win $67 ($32 in pot + your $15 turn bet + your $20 river blocker/value bet) to hit one of 9 outs (you have one jack.) (If he'd have played the river better- perhaps a min raise- which may be hard to fold to, then his odds improve still further.) Howver, if you bet the pot on the turn then he'd be paying over the odds to make the call.

As soon as made the bet I knew it was too small, guess I was just trying to keep hold of my customer!

Does anyone check raise the turn there?

I dint think a check raise would have worked in this case the guy was to passive and  would have scared him to death. Plus cant see many people betting this turn without a straight.

The villain in question is very very loose but also extremely passive, he is playing 75% of his hands but only raising around 3%. When he re-raised the flop I thought he was very strong either 2pair a set, possibly 10s or a flopped straight. Had to call the min re-raise tho! After his flat call on the turn i was pretty sure he didn't have the straight so wasn't very pleased to see board pair on the river.

Was going to check call but didn't fancy having to call a large over bet, so I went for the a blocking bet when he shoved was a pretty easy lay down he was far to passive to shove anything but a FH there.

Was just wondering what other people would have done on the river and why? Do you think there was a better way of playing this hand?

Lassie 10474687-306136 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : Hand Start.
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : Seat 1 : sparred has $207
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : Seat 2 : Life890 has $358.25
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : Seat 4 : ImJustAFish has $200
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : Seat 5 : cedarred has $211.18
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : Seat 6 : slayman has $198
[Feb 14 16:46:10] : cedarred is the dealer.
[Feb 14 16:46:11] : slayman posted small blind.
[Feb 14 16:46:11] : sparred posted big blind.
[Feb 14 16:46:20] : Game [306136] started with 4 players.
[Feb 14 16:46:20] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 14 16:46:20] : Seat 1 : sparred has   
[Feb 14 16:46:23] : Life890 called $2
[Feb 14 16:46:27] : cedarred called $2
[Feb 14 16:46:31] : slayman folded.
[Feb 14 16:46:32] : sparred checked.
[Feb 14 16:46:33] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 14 16:46:33] : Board cards     
[Feb 14 16:46:36] : sparred bet $5
[Feb 14 16:46:45] : Life890 called $5
[Feb 14 16:46:57] : cedarred called $5 and raised $5
[Feb 14 16:46:59] : sparred called $5
[Feb 14 16:47:01] : Life890 folded.
[Feb 14 16:47:02] : Dealing turn.
[Feb 14 16:47:02] : Board cards       
[Feb 14 16:47:07] : sparred bet $15
[Feb 14 16:47:21] : cedarred called $15
[Feb 14 16:47:21] : Dealing river.
[Feb 14 16:47:21] : Board cards         
[Feb 14 16:47:30] : sparred bet $20
[Feb 14 16:47:45] : cedarred has 10 seconds to respond.
[Feb 14 16:47:46] : cedarred called $20 and raised $164.18 and is All-in
[Feb 14 16:48:01] : It's your turn.
[Feb 14 16:48:09] : sparred folded.
[Feb 14 16:48:11] : cedarred wins $100 as the last player standing
[Feb 14 16:48:13] : Hand is over.