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(I wrote this out before Stu's reply but will just post as is)
I want to offer a few final thoughts in the hope of helping draw a line under this.
I can say with confidence that Stu hasn’t tried to hide his chronic fatigue — he’s spoken about it openly on Facebook, and I’d assume most (if not all) investors were aware. I’d also assume the same applies to the football thing.
For transparency, I was one of the people who messaged Jon, along with his brother Tommy. There was no coordination between us, and Stu had no involvement in me reaching out. I did apologise to Jon afterwards for the directness of my message, as I felt I’d reacted a little too emotionally — especially given it had been many years since we’d last spoken.
I’ve been a strong supporter of Stu in this thread, and I hope that hasn’t come across as preachy/holier than thou. I’ve known him personally for 20 years and have been in regular contact with him since this all came out. During this time, I’ve never felt he’s been anything other than completely genuine in our interactions — though I understand that may give me a bias others don’t share.
I'm simply hopeful he can begin to rebuild trust, make amends where possible, and move forward — especially for the sake of his family. I wonder if it's time to lock the thread to give him chance to do this. Perhaps all that needs to be said has already been said?
I want to offer a few final thoughts in the hope of helping draw a line under this.
I can say with confidence that Stu hasn’t tried to hide his chronic fatigue — he’s spoken about it openly on Facebook, and I’d assume most (if not all) investors were aware. I’d also assume the same applies to the football thing.
For transparency, I was one of the people who messaged Jon, along with his brother Tommy. There was no coordination between us, and Stu had no involvement in me reaching out. I did apologise to Jon afterwards for the directness of my message, as I felt I’d reacted a little too emotionally — especially given it had been many years since we’d last spoken.
I’ve been a strong supporter of Stu in this thread, and I hope that hasn’t come across as preachy/holier than thou. I’ve known him personally for 20 years and have been in regular contact with him since this all came out. During this time, I’ve never felt he’s been anything other than completely genuine in our interactions — though I understand that may give me a bias others don’t share.
I'm simply hopeful he can begin to rebuild trust, make amends where possible, and move forward — especially for the sake of his family. I wonder if it's time to lock the thread to give him chance to do this. Perhaps all that needs to be said has already been said?
Come on James, this post is ridiculous.
"I'd also assume the same applies to the football thing". He absolutely has tried to hide that as much as possible. Somehow even his brother didn't know anything about it until he was contacted about the poker fraud last month.
"I’ve never felt he’s been anything other than completely genuine in our interactions"
good one"I wonder if it's time to lock the thread to give him chance to do this. Perhaps all that needs to be said has already been said?"
So far Stuart hasn't addressed the poker fraud issue at all. Just tried to deflect the topic onto how unfortunate he was at Anfield last year and lately CFS. He has told Jon Raab that my post is incorrect. He hasn't told me that. Would love to hear from him on the poker fraud issue and exactly how my post is incorrect. Amazing that he has completely avoided the topic at hand despite being such a wordsmith on other issues, and being happy to provide detailed hand histories covering both the nonfiction and fiction genres.
I heard about the football thing from a couple of different poker contacts last year — I assumed it was largely common knowledge but perhaps I am off base here, I'm unsure.
As for my interactions with Stu, I’m not sure how they can be questioned. It is my personal opinion, formed on the back of hundreds of messages and voice notes exchanged with Stu since this all came out. I’ve also spoken with his wife and had calls with his brother. I am trying my best to help him.
In my opinion, Stu is currently unwell and not acting like himself. I think his posts in this thread reflect that.
I understand your perspective — that this is a calculated effort to downplay what happened, that he’s faking remorse or mental health issues, and that he’s beyond forgiveness. I just don’t share that view.
My perception is different. I see someone who’s broken, who went badly off track and made terrible decisions. He’s still broken. He’s my friend, and I want him to have the best chance to recover and move forward.
From what I understand, he’s explained himself at length to the investor group, and either repaid or reached agreements with everyone involved. I’m not sure what’s gained by continuing to revisit it here when those conversations have already happened privately.
