Brian Wilson?

 

Last I heard from Red-dog and MattT he's back on the road with The Beachboys.

He gets around...round...round...he gets around....

Brian Wilson?

 

Well deserved!!

 

Good Luck Sir!

 

Saw it yesterday...thought it was really good.

The way it ended looks like there will be a lot more of them over the next few years too.

I want to see more of Scotty's wee pal...lol

TT

Come on Ironside.

Give us a chance. You say that in the future we'll be able to stand on our own two feet. We can do that now.
I've never really been able to take seriously the arguments against independence. Those arguments are all based on the assumption that the Scots, uniquely among the peoples of the world, are incapable of making their country better.

Read this about New Zealand...why can we be like this.......http://www.snp.org/node/262

btw..I'm not an SNP member or activist I just feel we'd be better off.

Anyway, we'll all have a chance soon to vote.

 

oh and guess who would benifit the most from a scotish home rule

the tories

they would be unbeatable in the uk parliment
and with no more need for the SNP all the rural and coastal villages and towns would revert to there normal voting pattern of torie making them the largest party in scotland again

This is confusing..If Scotland gained independence, why would it care who rules England.??.it would have the same relevance as who ruled Denmark. Scotland has rejected the Tories. It done so long before the recent resurgence of the Nationalist so I doubt we turn back to them..and if we did they'd be Scots Tories and not answerable to London.

 

tory is a tory no matter where they are from

any politian left in scotland would be 2nd rate (just look at our "government in holyrood")

I'm sorry but this is just nonsense. The more power our parliament has the bettter the standard of politician it'll attract. I believe in the intelligence, integrity, industry and ingenuity of the Scottish people.

'Build it and they will come'...:-)

 


 

I take it you never lived through the 80's in Scotland??...You do not have a clue!!..ignorance??...Poll tax, warrant sales, fship yard closures, pit closures, our oil revenues bank rolling 3m unemployed, student loans,honest working men fighting for their livlelihood branded the enemy within etc etc.
The point regarding the conservative MP is this..There is one in Scotland...one..Some English people ( Jeremy is one of them) feel their country is being run by
Scots. At least there are a few hundred English labour MP's. If the Tories win the next election they will have no mandate to rule Scotland..The people who remember the 80's and clearly you are not one of them will not stand for it..That was my point.

 

Boldie..there are reasons why the Tories support has dropped from 50% in the vote to around 15% now. People remember the last time they were in power here.
Never again..If they are voted in again Scotland will turn towards independence.That is my opinion.

But my point is that living in the 80s does not do Scotland any favours...not voting Tory simply because of what happened in the 80s is not good. I am no Tory voter by any stretch of the imagination but to discard a political party because of something that happened 20-30 years ago is not sensible.

oh and guess who would benifit the most from a scotish home rule

the tories

they would be unbeatable in the uk parliment
and with no more need for the SNP all the rural and coastal villages and towns would revert to there normal voting pattern of torie making them the largest party in scotland again

This is confusing..If Scotland gained independence, why would it care who rules England.??.it would have the same relevance as who ruled Denmark. Scotland has rejected the Tories. It done so long before the recent resurgence of the Nationalist so I doubt we turn back to them..and if we did they'd be Scots Tories and not answerable to London.

 

[scotland will have to take its turn in living in a country ruled by the south of england]

scotland will have to take its turn in living in a country ruled by the south of england


No we wont...not this time..we'll have a chance to vote for an indepedent Scotland..The SNP will only get stronger in the next few years...It's time!

[Well Boldie...the Union has worked well hasn't it??..sounds like we have nothing to lose does it....Thanks for making my point.]

Really, Scotland is in a right state already..the NHS is no good, the education system isn't all that grand really...the benefit system is a joke. Teenage pregnancy rate is through the roof, herion abuse is ridiculously high as are the alcoholism rates. (Admittedly a lot of these problems are UK wide but Scotland gets more money spent on them per person than, say England does....so it's fair enough to say Scotland should be in a better way)
Scotland has no major companies to speak off that are doing well enough. Since devolution the Scottish parliament has shown absolutely nothing that gives anyone any confidence in their abilities. The SNP has made promises but failed miserably when it comes to delivering on those promises and they are the ones that advocate an independent Scotland.

Well Boldie...the Union has worked well hasn't it??..sounds like we have nothing to lose does it....Thanks for making my point.

I'm proud
to say the nearest Tory MP has his constituency over 100 miles from me. I look forward to the day when Scotland takes its place amongst the worlds nations
and I'll tell you this a Tory victory at the next election will guarantee it....
I don't know where this Tory hatred comes from...other than pure ignorance and simply living in the past...it's a common thing in Scotland and does noone any favours.
You should have better politicians in Scotland in all parties; The SNP, Labour the Scottish Tories and LibDems are all filled with second rate politicians...until you get some better ones I really wouldn't wish independence on you.


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I take it you never lived through the 80's in Scotland??...You do not have a clue!!..ignorance??...Poll tax, warrant sales, fship yard closures, pit closures, our oil revenues bank rolling 3m unemployed, student loans,honest working men fighting for their livlelihood branded the enemy within etc etc.
The point regarding the conservative MP is this..There is one in Scotland...one..Some English people ( Jeremy is one of them) feel their country is being run by
Scots. At least there are a few hundred English labour MP's. If the Tories win the next election they will have no mandate to rule Scotland..The people who remember the 80's and clearly you are not one of them will not stand for it..That was my point.

 

OMG ...where to start...Thanks Jeremy ( poncy English name) ...keep at it..Tory victory at next election = Scottish independence.

Absolutely no way Scotland will allow itself to be ruled by English public school boys ( like Jeremy ( poncy English name ) )again..not after Thatcher
decimated the place the last time...

The longer Jeremy (poncy English name) keeps ranting on the better......Scotland will be freeeeeee!!!

 

lol..Slovakia, Finland, Norway,Denmark, lithuania,Latvia, Slovenia, New Zealand, Ireland, iceland etc etc etc all manage why cant the Scots...I'm proud
to say the nearest Tory MP has his constituency over 100 miles from me. I look forward to the day when Scotland takes its place amongst the worlds nations
and I'll tell you this a Tory victory at the next election will guarantee it....kepp ranting Jeremy

 

Yes, because the Scottish parliament and Scottish business has done incredibly well over the past few years and therefore you should have all the confidence in an independent Scotland.

I really can't believe people still advocate an independent Scotland over here...

OMG ...where to start...Thanks Jeremy ( poncy English name) ...keep at it..Tory victory at next election = Scottish independence.

Absolutely no way Scotland will allow itself to be ruled by English public school boys ( like Jeremy ( poncy English name ) )again..not after Thatcher
decimated the place the last time...

The longer Jeremy (poncy English name) keeps ranting on the better......Scotland will be freeeeeee!!!

 

I'm in!




 

Claw Hammered....sigh!!