chris

he might be looking for ways to catch american players................................... FB Ayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........lol

Lol.... I'm in the UK for a start 

Brilliant idea too, remote accessing PC's, hmm... thats pretty smart. But if it wasn't his place there'd be the problem of cashing out... but still thanks, great start

 

Hey Folks,

This may sound strange so let me explain....

I'm doing research into US players playing online poker. The ban itself is full of loopholes, it was mainly initiated to ban sportsbetting etc, but of course poker players are really suffering and it is unfair!

Well, I'm conducting research into what players and cardrooms are doing to get around this. There are various sites many of us know about that are already accepting US players but this is limited and has removed the wonderful variety of what used to be!

So, are you a banned US player that has found a loop hole? Have you found away to play where you like?

If so I'd love to hear from you, I dont want any personal info or anything like that... just what you did/do and how!

You may read this on a variety of different forums and yes i have copied and pasted it to move it around, however i'm trying to get as many responses as possible to this so I'm posting it as many places as i see relevant. I'd appreciate honest answers and any that are received that not only work but are within the law may get a spotlight in the upcoming article.

please either reply or PM me

Thanks to all that respond

...yeah thats another way lol!

lol.... interesting.

I think it is you who is a little mis-led if you honestly think that there is no way of taking a numerable amount of figures (which obviously exist) and compiling them to create a result.

Think about what your saying "They have no way of knowing how many "live" Poker Accounts there are. How CAN they?" its simple.... when you register for poker online you give a certain amount of detail, ignoring the fact that people create duff accounts, when you create a cash account you must provide certain information. Amongst this information is financial info.... now each company you use to make a transaction online has a record and a history of it.... even if you were to use 30+ different payment methods there is still a trail.

so between a group of companies your entire history of online payments and withdrawels is kept. That I'm sure you wont disagree with....

so next you take other companies who purchase these datasets and accumulate them into "transactions per household" thus giving an accurate figure of people playing poker. This is not only not "wrong" its been done for years.

A live poker account is simply an account with a recent transaction.

I obviously do not know what industry you work in and i wont presume to but I've worked with companies who do this.

So in closing, yes there is one born every minute but those who believe that almost everything they do isn't noted or recorded somewhere is the one born every minute in my eyes.

thanks to all your responses guys, I'll take note of this!

Although during my research I cam across a company claiming to have all the information i reqcuired... which was great! Until I found out it would cost me over £2000 to get it from them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not in need THAT much for it lol.

As I said before - NOBODY has that information. They may claim to, but they have not. Fact.


If you part with £2 mill or £200,000 or £20,000 or five bob - you ain't gonna get the info, because nobody has it or knows it - it's a number that's impossible to define.

How CAN they have?

How can ANYONE know how many sites I use, & thus how much double, triple or 22-tuple counting there would be?

How can ANYONE know how many poker accounts are dormant. (Though I bet it's 95%+). I must have a whole bunch of dormant accounts, & so have most players.

There's none so blind......

Thats not entirely true, some companies acumulate figures for internal profit progression and market forcasting. This i swhy companies charge for this information, its not public knowledge. Remember when you join a room or make a transaction big brother is watching you! lol. The data exists and there are companies that are paid very highly to accumulate this information, its how big companies get bigger and smaller companies get more creative... the big boys have an accurate hindsite, the small guys that are still around are simply more in touch with the specified market.

Dont get me wrong, theres no whole in the system where this data goes through, everything is very much above board... its just how the industry works. Companies wont simply ask for figures and take word of mouth as proof... these companies undertake deep and indepth studies. Thats no to say that there is a report with the exact (down to one) number of poker players day to day etc but it does mean that given a variety of different information including multiple account figures and financial transaction that a pretty accurate figure can be aqcuired.

Now I feel like i'm giving a lesson into the world of marketing lol... sorry guys I tend to ramble on a bit.

 

Hmm.... all very interesting

I kinda figured you couldn't post them up here but i decided I'd ask just in case lol... ya never know

anyhoo... i know the fishy site your on about and i'm checking them out now

As for the others, it honest to god never crossed my mind that the sites didn't actually review the rooms. lol, I guess i just have too much faith in the business world, which is daft considering what i've seen in the jobs i've had LMAO!

ah well, cheers anyway guys!  

p.s.... you guys are totally random lol

lmfao! Ok... note to self, **dont ask form members about review sites**

www.everylinkgoestoblondepokerforum.com

right now thats that sorted... any more... that DONT come full circle? 

thanks to all your responses guys, I'll take note of this!

Although during my research I cam across a company claiming to have all the information i reqcuired... which was great! Until I found out it would cost me over £2000 to get it from them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not in need THAT much for it lol.

ha ha!!!! fair one!

I'm always on a deadline... you guys got the easy side of the poker world!!! lol

hmmm.... you dont trust review sites, I can see your point but not all of them are over paid layabouts getting paid to tell people what they get paid too (lol).

There must be other sites out there you guys look at?

cant stand myspace.... horrible lil site!

Facebook however is great! its easy to use and FREE!!!! (friends reunited eat your heart out!). Infact I met my current girlfriend on facebook. The fact that it does what all these pay sites do.... only better.. and for free just makes it number one in my book

Hey folks,

I'm trying to find the nets most popular poker review sites. The sites you guys actually visit and trust....

Please help 

Hey Guys,

I was in a similar position a few months ago and I decided to go with Dell... Never looked back. I have an inspiron 1501, 1gb ram, 64bit amd processor.... lotsa really nice stuff.

I looked online for the same spec and got prices of around £700+ and this lil buaety cost me just £430 (including a bag and lots of extras). Just remember its better to call dell as they are all on commision based. call up and start low they will edge you up to your target and drag in a whole load of extras just for the sale. And dont let them beat you down with "UBER GEEK" chatter.... its just them trying to convince you to go there way. Find out what you want and how much you want to spend and stick to it.

As for the comment earlier on "clone" machines... thats just odd.... for one Acer are europes top laptops... which says alot for europe as they suck.

I used to work for acer in technical support and was just plain shocked at the customer service people around me where given, the management just stinks! Dell and acer use the same parts and are basically the same. The only main difference is Dells support is F-ing incredible. Sure they have their laptops get faults all laptops do but i've never come across a company that values its cusomers so much.

I use my lil lappy for poker, downloading, surfing the net, database building and word processing and it runs beautifully. So you should find a top machine for what you need no problem!

Oh and the only issue you will get with XP is MS are stopping all OEM support in the near future (although I was informed they were going to stop at the US launch of vista).

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that, I'll check them out ...

Google is useless as the word poker just brings up the obvious, regardless of what sentence its used in lol.

I've been looking for a site that simply says: In 2000 there were on average 10,000 online poker players worldwide, in 2001 there were on average 143,345 players online etc.

I cant find anywhere on the internet with this kind of information, there must be a stats site or review site thats has online poker milestones so to speak.

This may sound like a really daft request... but here goes.

Due to the sheer size of this forum I'm hoping there are people here who can help me. I'm trying to see the growth of online poker through the years, from 2000 to 2007.

Basically if anyone knows of any sites that show how online pokers grown over the years (with figures) I'd greatly appreciate some direction.

I need something along the lines of:

Poker rooms in 2000, 2001, 2002 etc...
online poker players in 2000, 2001, 2002 etc...

various details like the above are what I'm after

Thanks in advance guys

The nuts poker league started about the same time, he actually approached PITP for joining the leagues prior to going on dragons den.

If people are complaining about the salary then they have no idea what they are talking about. one of the posters hit it on the nose earlier.... sales jobs are paid depending on the difficulty of the sale amongst other things. I did sales for some time for a phone company, and there basic was a lot worse but the product was an easy sell. Its not some top IT equipment thats being sold here... its entertainment!

for a brand new car + insurance and the basic wage your already in a damn good position, and £20,000 isn't the maximum its a guestimate.

How can anyone complain about something their not interested in, if you dont want or need the job then why comment. Just because your paid more or get more holiday doesn't mean its an automatic entitlement. No-one is dumb enough to advertise a job with anything that is contrary to employment law... therefore if a certain amount of holiday is advertised and thats fine!

Just my 2 cents lol