I was reffering to my own face people.

How insane do you think i am to suggest that my own wifes face is something to fear....


Very funny AndrewT..I like it......

Tom

I'm sure yogi's face can't be any worse than the one I have to wake up with every morning! !

Another reason I like the Westerns double chance is that they have a starting level of 25/25 rather than 25/50, but it's more the extra level I like than the dc.

What is their next level. 50/50 or 25/50

Hi Yogi

Yeah would be nice to put a face to a name.

Rob

[In “Heads Up” play. (Active from the betting round after the hand becomes heads up)]

Hi Dik

Unless i have misread rule 65.

65.   “Under raises” are ONLY permitted :-

i)   If a player is going “all in”
ii)   In “Heads Up” play. (Active from the betting round after the hand becomes heads up)
iii)   In competition play under raises are only permitted when the field is reduced to 2 players (except point one above)

Note: All in under raises do not reactivate the betting for players who have already acted

Make of it what you all will.

Maybe Mike from down South can explain it better than I.

I have to say you can't beat the great stokie breakfast of Bacon, cheese and mushroom oatcakes with a hot cuppa tea...............If you have never tried em you are missing out...

I have to admit ironside that the first £100 D/C F/O i did as I started explaining the rules of when you can take your 2nd allocation of chips and everyone started kicking off saying " No you can take them whenever you want to" I thought that i had missed a change in the rules somewhere and thought it best to go along with them. After some digging around I couldn't find a change to the way the second allocation should be taken so if I should run anymore D/C games it will be prominently in the rules of the game that you can't take your second allocation until you have 50% or less.

I don't believe that it is a hard n fast rule but the idea comes from the guidline 3 rule of when you can re-buy in a comp i would imagine.

i am also a fan if your going to make it a Double chance making it so that you cannot get your 2nd chance untill after you have lost atleast 50% of your starting stack

That makes more sense - it makes the double-chance element more 'real'.

Now that is how I would like to see the D/C F/O's run but it seems that from somewhere people have got it that D/C allows you to take your chips when you want. If any TD for Grosvenor looks into the manual for a definition of a D/C it says they cannot take their second allocation of chips until they have 50% or less.

I know manuals get old and not updated but the definition of a D/C is lost by allowing players to take their chips when they want to IMO.

Every Tuesday night around 130 people turn out to the cardrooms in Stoke to play either a straight £20 F/O at the circus or a £20 double chance F/O at the grosvenor.

Both have a chip allocation of 8k. Grosv's does 4+4 or 8 and the circus does straight 8k.

So if you like low budget F/O's head to stoke.

Thankyou for your well wishes.

I take it I will be seeing you down there to at some point Clive?


Or will hell have had to of frozen over first?

 

cos u  cant  call  AND raise??

i c the point  now     

but

never seen or heard  such like anywhere in the world  b4.

stoke  gros appears to be in its own universe.

Clive you do amuse me.


ps I dont write these rules btw

Port.

The previous raise was 3000 so how going 2000 after it in the same round of betting is it a standard min raise??

Any raise must be the size of the BB in any situation unless you are going all-in.

In heads up play by the Grosvenor rule book it states that you may under raise.

SB 1000
BB 2000

Sb calls the 1000 and raises 3000 more making it 3000 to call for the BB.
BB calls the extra 3000 but can raise it another 2000 if he wishes without moving all-in.

Why he would want to I don't know as I am not a poker player but that is what can be done.

I think that once we can get rid of Guidline 3 from our cardrooms a significant change will ensue.

One of the biggest changes that i will be happy about is allowing players to enter a competition later than what they are allowed to now. i.e must be on premises at start of the comp. Although it does create a certain punctuality it also has a big negative for me too having to turn people away for being a minute or 2 late.

I know that players will have many changes that they to will be glad to see, my example is just one. I have read Roberts Rules and also the TDA rules and both are very good.

Now that Harrah's own LCI and the imminent loss of GL3 will we see the rules that Harrah's use brought across the water?

Paula,

I hope everything turns out for the better in regards of your daughter. You are a lovely lady from the encounters I have had with you in the past.


And if you need pens just ask.


Rob