I would also hope that in future P4C people and volunteers do not claim expenses for attending events where those expenses take from the net sum given to the good causes.

I do think this part is an unrealistic thing to expect, if people are volunteering their time its not unreasonable to expect to be reimbursed for travel etc.  Whether its deducted from the money at the event or other dontations then these expenses have to be met.  Its more managing the volunteers to keep those costs down eg having Newcastle based people run the Newcastle event so accommodation isnt required etc.  I also suspect that expenses are not the bulk of the costs incurred.

There are always going to be some costs and overheads to fundraise and those costs always have to be met from monies raised, I think thats a bit of niavity people have around charities (as was shown in the other thread), I think even big events like Children in Need have huge costs (3 miilion quid I think) and someone has to meet them.  Even Hospices (I did the accounts for our local one for a time) have to pay money to raise money (they had a lottery officer who was paid to grow that element of the business) and had overheads like shop rental etc.

I suspect though that unfortunatley this is the end for P4C, a charity needs goodwill to operate and I suspect this incident and the revelations of the costs will put off a lot of people volunteering or wishing to participate in events, unless they demonstrate a real change in the cost base or fund raising strategy. 

To a point I do hope I am wrong as there are organizations that could do with the money they could generate, Hopices in particular cry out for funding as they have to generate a lot of cash each year to keep providing the wonderful service they do.

And finally, does anyone know how much the Chief Executives of NSPCC or British Heart Foundation or RSPCA earn?

RSPCA around £100,000 - £110,000 the NSPCC seems to be about the same, as per the accounts of 2005 and 2003 respectively.  Assuming the Chref exec is the highest paid person in the organization.

but i am a littel upset to hear that 10k was given to good causes but wages at £155 a week (£8060 a year)was paid

That figure will be slightly higher as there will be employers costs to add.

I havent read through the whole thread yet but dont understand the hospital not being able to accept any money, I worked in NHS finance for ten years so have a bit of experience in this.

Hospitals have what are called trust funds for any donations that people wish to give that are ringfenced off totally from normal budgeted funds (and saving cuts), generally if you donate to a Ward then the Ward will get those general funds to use as they wish, normally it would be used for equipment whether a tv for the patents a new blood monitor or whatever.  However you can specify what your donation goes towards for example large donations from a will might be specific that it has to be on a capital project for children or whatever.

I am surprised there is any issue around this aspect of the donation as this is pretty standard for any NHS trust.

I have been at a P4c event and seen how passionate davey was about it, I would be very disapointed if anything untoward is going on.

Edit after reading the thread,  there are semantics over a grant/donation I think above still stands you can make a grant (its money to a trust fund however you want to dress it) and specifically say what it must be spent for, again this doesnt seem unstandard from my experience.

If a couple of people are all in and you have a crappy hand that has potential and isnt likely dominated then call, ie suited connectors, unsuited connectors things like 67, 910 etc.  But dont so it with stuff like A2 or k8 etc as will likely not have 2 live cards.

Didnt realise you were there otherwise would have said hello as well, I have the advantage of knowing what you like like though, well if I rechecked Cheesy poker before I went.

I was downstairs on table 20 right in front of the big screen so was great for watching the matches and keeping up with the live scores.

I still tend to be on 2+2 more with a bit of The mob forum may hang round here a bit as see theres a lot of Mob and Gutshot regulars on here.

I enjoyed the event just wish I had got some cards and lasted a bit longer, ended up bluffing all my chips off and feeling embarressed with the whole room looking and clapping.

Spent an enjoyable 4 hours sat next to Bainn, even though I dont talk much at the table enjoyed his company and the fact he was even tighter than me (I think he played 2 hands in that time).  Need to learn in future to have a bit more patience in these slower live events.

I bought my 2001FP from that same guy on ebay maybe 2 years ago now, mine does have US style plug but he sent adapter with it and I have had 0 problems.

Luton and Vic deff ok for jeans, havnt played Newcastle but Hey, its Newcastle

Yes I have the beer belly so will get in no bother.

Thanks

Luton, the vic and Newcastle.

I am now a fully paid up member of a couple of the Grovsner casinos and am planning on playing a few tournaments.

Could someone confirm the dress code I know it tends to be "smart casual" whatever that means.

I take it that means no jeans or trainers?  Does that mean dark black jeans are not acceptable?

Black Trainers?

T shirts do they have to be polo neck ones or anything half decent.

Or should I turn up in my work stuff.

Thanks

As a mainly online player the odd live tournament I play in I still make my decisions very quickly and when I watch on tv
I am wondering what they are sitting there thinking about, online your thinking tends to get done later with self
analysis.

I think when I am playing live I need to try and slow down and think more on key decisions.