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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Moderation on blonde Poker
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on: November 03, 2009, 12:36:06 PM
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As a former mod - I'll tell you now it's a damn hard job and generally pretty unforgiving but if people are creating a certain mood then it's the Mods responsibility to sort it out.
If you want a 'anything goes' zone then go look at the Gutshot and see how awful it can be there, if that doesn't change your mind then go make a chatroom somewhere and pick your partner.
I have always liked Cos even though I've never met him but the idea that a one day cooler that got turned into a three day ban was enough to make him declare that he would no longer play on blonde or post on the forum seems petty. It's three days, get over it. Hopefully once he's calmed down he'll realise all his mates are still here and will start posting again.
some might say the 3 day ban was also petty. The individuals broke forum posting guidelines. The moderators are tasked with keeping the forum in line with the community spirit and ethos established over four years. No decision to make a ban of whatever length is taken lightly, especially when we know that the flak from the decision will be there for all to see, and the moderating team regard the decision as entirely appropriate, and some regard it as lenient. Petty is most definitely not the right word. Should tikay, who is the shareholder in charge of the forum, decide that he has no confidence in the moderators he will no doubt tell us. Until such time its a free forum, with our rules. Play by them or go elsewhere. floppy used the word petty to describe cos's decision to switch his money from blonde cardroom to another as petty i think some might think that was an inappropriate word to use in that situation as well. i always love the "play by them or go elsewhere " statement x And also to leave the forum. Look, Cos has been posting for a number of years and then gets a short ban (which even he admits he probably deserved) for one day which was lengthened to three days to which he declares he'll never post again - and if that's true it's a crying shame. But it was a silly fight over nothing, I'll call it petty because that's what I believe it is and I really hope Cos was 'blogging in the heat of the moment' and will be back on the forum soon. And who is this 'some might think' that you're always harping on about? That's pretty vague for someone who says he tells it like it is.  He didn't get a 1 day ban lengthened to 3 days, he got a 24 hour cooler while we decided on the length of the ban, we decided on 3 days. According to Cos, 3 days is so long that he has decided he will never post again, and yet according to EvilPie it should be a month, otherwise it's not worth doing.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Moderation on blonde Poker
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on: November 03, 2009, 12:00:01 PM
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As a former mod - I'll tell you now it's a damn hard job and generally pretty unforgiving but if people are creating a certain mood then it's the Mods responsibility to sort it out.
If you want a 'anything goes' zone then go look at the Gutshot and see how awful it can be there, if that doesn't change your mind then go make a chatroom somewhere and pick your partner.
I have always liked Cos even though I've never met him but the idea that a one day cooler that got turned into a three day ban was enough to make him declare that he would no longer play on blonde or post on the forum seems petty. It's three days, get over it. Hopefully once he's calmed down he'll realise all his mates are still here and will start posting again.
some might say the 3 day ban was also petty. The individuals broke forum posting guidelines. The moderators are tasked with keeping the forum in line with the community spirit and ethos established over four years. No decision to make a ban of whatever length is taken lightly, especially when we know that the flak from the decision will be there for all to see, and the moderating team regard the decision as entirely appropriate, and some regard it as lenient. Petty is most definitely not the right word. Should tikay, who is the shareholder in charge of the forum, decide that he has no confidence in the moderators he will no doubt tell us. Until such time its a free forum, with our rules. Play by them or go elsewhere.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Where's Greekstein?
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on: November 03, 2009, 11:54:04 AM
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More point is that they as I were unaware that there was possibility that ban were going to be lengthed. As a long time poster I have never heard of people being banned for 1 set amount of time and then being told it is actually longer.
This is simply not the case. The 24 hour cooler is routinely used whilst the mods decide what course of action is appropriate. It is not the case of doing one thing and then lengthening a ban. A cooler is not a ban it is what it implies, a cooling off period where decisions can be made without ongoing distractions. The mods believe they have been consistent and clear in their actions. Furthermore they regard 3 day bans in this case as lenient.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Where's Greekstein?
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on: November 03, 2009, 12:15:58 AM
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Why not just remove the thread, warn the poster and leave it at that?
When is GlasgowBandit gonna be re-instated please? He is a reformed character IMO.
Because the flaming was so severe. Glasgow Bandit? No idea, we consider all requests for unbanning. mikky T?? not a chance in hell till flushy sacks me or i die/resign almost everyone
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Where's Greekstein?
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on: November 03, 2009, 12:15:39 AM
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not a suggestion, a flame or a troll as i dont want to get myself into trouble but just a genuine question.
has salfi been banned?
fair question 3 days also Not for anything on the thread at the time but for his unacceptable reaction to the coolerings afterwards Which was deleted, along with your quote of it, which deletion you took exception to on the Alea thread
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Where's Greekstein?
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on: November 03, 2009, 12:04:20 AM
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Why not just remove the thread, warn the poster and leave it at that?
When is GlasgowBandit gonna be re-instated please? He is a reformed character IMO.
Because the flaming was so severe. Glasgow Bandit? No idea, we consider all requests for unbanning.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Where's Greekstein?
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on: November 02, 2009, 11:57:13 PM
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There is a slight misunderstanding here
A 24 hour cooler is put in place, usually when only one mod is on and action needs to be taken, so as to allow time for a considered decision to be made by the whole team in the time period of the cooler
It is not a case of meting out one punishment and then giving another. It is not an extension of any ban
Both posters are banned for a total of three days each, after which time both will be welcome back
From the whole mods team, we dislike intensely having to remove posts and/or threads and subsequently taking action.
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Poker Forums / The Rail / Moderation on blonde Poker
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on: November 02, 2009, 10:58:17 PM
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Moderation on blonde Poker
In recent months several members of blonde Poker staff and the moderation team have referred to a perceived fall in posting standards on the forum, and several threads have debated this.
This trend has coincided with the moderating team having far fewer resources to keep the forum "just so" as mods have left and others have seen life commitments severely curtail their involvement in the forum. This has led, we think, to a widespread perception that the mods have "let it slip". Whilst in reality this is not deliberate, in practice there are instances where previously action would have been taken but where resources have left us unable to do so.
This trend has culminated in recent weeks with an upswing in deleted posts, with a number of posters publically challenging the mods, in some instances being openly rude to mods and on a more general basis a very confrontational atmosphere in a number of areas with posters "getting at" each other. In addition the incidence of "trolling" where posters do not necessarily insult or flame but nevertheless dramatically affect the spirit of the forum by posting incitefully has increased substantially.
This is a far cry from the ideals with which the forum was established by tikay and colleagues in 2005, as a civil place where people could hang out without fear of flaming, rudeness and trolling, the likes of which were very prevalent on the bigger poker forums of the time. Through time the blonde Poker forum proved successful at attracting a wide spread of members from all walks of life, from Poker Pros to recreational players and indeed those who did not play poker at all, so much so that through to 2009 it has garnered a membership base of nearly 10,000 and at times up to 1,200,000 page views a month from 25,000 Unique IP addresses.
It can of course be argued that poker forums have a "life cycle", that moves from a small band of early adopters through to mass appeal and then to a decline in popularity, with worsening standards along the way. We are determined to avoid that, but sadly have already lost a number of regular posters . As such we now intend to re-assert the core beliefs that were in place in 2005, and appear to be less so now. This might be a painful process, indeed we are beginning tonight with a small number of posting bans on certain individuals who posted in quite unacceptable terms over the weekend. No longer will we bend over backwards to avoid bans, as we have done to date, we will act more quickly, and determinedly to restore this forum.
Please note an important point. It does not matter how much you rake on the card-room and which moderators, staff or shareholders you count as friends, if you contravene the posting guidelines then you will be subject to the same measures as an unknown poster.
In the near future we hope to be joined by new moderators as we look to restore the moderating team to a full complement.
Thank you, and we look forward to working with you all to take this forum on.
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