Sorry guys, let me clarify.....

As PT could not fullfill their debt to Everleaf (the network) and did not respond to numerous requests for payment, Everleaf rightfully terminated their contract.

The contract (like most others I assume) stipulates that in this scenario the player database becomes the responsibility of the network.

The fact that Everleaf have assumed control of the player base, does not mean that the debt PT owe them is written off. It is up to Everleaf how they choose to persue this, but with people on the ground in Malta (where Trillion Ltd is registered) they they might find info easier to come by. I have passed on contact details between Blonde and Everleaf and I am naturally interested in this outcome.

Rockem Poker is currently owned by Everleaf. The Rockem skin was built some time ago for another client who did not complete, so was instantly available as a solution for the PT player base. I am not working for the same people in any way shape or form. The Trillion office was in London, I am currently working from home and have been since the end of November. I have had no contact with those who were supposedly behind Trillion for some time.

Also, the main reason why the Trillion name was not kept is that ELG cannot get hold of the URL. It does not belong to Trillion Ltd. Whois shows a 3rd party reseller and its not know what contract Trillion had with this reseller, so the safe option was to use the new name.  

Laxie. I did email you only 1h before you posted to see if you needed any more assistance, as you didn't reply to my previous email earlier this week. Please don't suggest you won't get the funds. It is more than reasonable to ask to see proof you own the card, as in days gone by, the oldest trick in the book was to make a deposit with a stolen card, only to withdrawal to a legit one. Fortunately due to the 3D security now online, such checks will not be necessary in the future.

Col

I understood all players withdrawal were up to date after the change to the payment processor last week.

Send me an email to colin@pokertrillion.com including your nickname and I will sort for you right away.

Col

Tikay,

I did send you and Rich (and also spoken to Rich) an email explaining this in a little more detail.

For the record I was not paid off, like Blonde and many others I am still owed a load. I have accepted a position, for which I am very grateful in the current climate.

Not playing at Rockem as Trillion didnt pay will only harm the good guys who have taken responsibility for the offers and players.

We all have a common interest in doing what we can to secure monies owed by Trillion.

On another note, I have been very humbled by the notes of personal support on this board. Your right, it is a very difficult situation, and whilst these messages are pleasant reading, I do fully understand the reason why this thread is here, and that is because Blonde have not been paid what they are rightly due. Regardless of my own sitution, having personally set up the deal and the challenge series, I do feel responsible.  I have been in pretty much an impossible situation now for a few months, and if I can do the right thing by Blonde, PL or any of the others in the future, then rest assured I will

Col

Just a quick follow up on withdrawals.......

A credit card proof would not be required for a NETeller withdrawal if the deposit was via NETeller. However, if the deposit was via a card and the withdrawal was via NETeller then it needs to be seen.

Once ELG's new payment platform with 3D security is up and running, then such proofs will not be necessary as the 3D security process double verifies the owner.

Col

Thanks,

Leave it with me. I will get back to you on Monday once I have reslolved.

Col

Laxie,

Could you forward that email to colin@pokertrillion.com please. There is no way support should need card details for a NETeller transaction.

When card details are required, we do suggest that all apart from the last 4 numbers are hidden.

Hope you can give me the opportunity to resolve this for you.

Col

Further to the Post by Col, aka blonde Member "Poker Trilllion", I'd comment further.

I am assuming that Col will acknowledges that I have been extremely discrete hitherto. He & I have exchanged reams of e-Mails & spoken on the 'phone for an age.

I'd like to ask a few questions of Colin. They are, perhaps, a little impertinent, but under the circumstances, I think they are fine.

1) The Staff of Poker Trillion are yourself, & Andy Pyrah. How many months is it since either of you received wages - 3, 4, 5?

2) Is it true that the Poker Trilion Trade Creditors include (I'll not specifically name them) the Poker Print Media (3 magazines at least), Poker Websites (more than one....),  Staff, & Everleaf?

3) Who are the financial backers, &/or Directors, of Poker Trillion? I understand the spot you are in, but it's not credible to suggest you do not know who you work for.

I'm very grateful that you have been, I think, & up to a point, open & honest with me. But I think you need to go a little further.

I'm here, busily reassuring Players that their money is safe on Poker Trillion, as Everleaf, in effect, hold it, & guarantee it.

But I believe Poker Trillion may

....have run up debtors to Trade Creditors in the last 5 months in that run into 6 figures.

.....have not received a cent of income during that period, it having been withheld at source by Everleaf to satisfy Network Charges, Guarantees, Reload Bonuses, & Overlay.

Can you comment on those scenarios, please?

Finally, I'd be interested in your views on the ethicacy of running a business which is accumulating debts to trade creditors, parallel with having zero income.

I sort of regret putting you in a spot here Col. But there is a mountain of debt at stake here, the £7k owed to blonde is but a fraction of the total. This is a very serious matter.

I do think that the Poker Community - who, blonde apart, seem wholly relaxed about this Poker Trillion debacle - need to be aware of the enormity of this affair. You are running a business that has no income, unless I am mistaken. And businesses like blonde are paying for that.

Tony,

In short, I do not mind you asking these questions. The real truth is I do not know the answers. I have some hunches, but that's all they are, and more speculation is not whats needed.

What I can tell you is this:

I have not received a wage for 4 months. The reason I am still here is because I wrongly beleived it was 'on it's way' I also love my job and feel a duty of service to the players.

I tendered my resignation to Trillion last week and will be here for the next week.

I have offered to work with ELG in the future and am meeting with them next week to discuss a route forward.

I do not know what is owed or to who. I only found out what was owed to Blonde after Tony told me the other day.

I am not a director, shareholder or officer of PT, just a mere employee and I was not privvy to such information. I never had access to the bank accounts and never dealt with invoicing in any way shape or form. I am trying to find out answers to many of the same questions.

There has already been speculation as to who Trillions backers were. I can confirm (to the best of my knowledge) that Trillion has not had any financial backing in any way shape or form for some months, hence the current situation.

The company is a Maltese LTD company and I understand the director/s names are on public records, although I have not looked as to who they are. I might get more answers here after my meeting with the network, as there must have been some contract.

Andrew Pyrah is the CEO of Trillion Ltd.

Despite me having little/any reason to continue to talk up PT, I am sure players funds are safe and have every confidence in the network, which itself has seen excellent growth recently, as well as a host of improvements to the poker clients.  Once I have had my meeting with the network next week I will report back.

Col

Hi Col,

I have business to attend to today, on the South Coast, so I'm pushed for time right now. But I'd like to clarify a few things.

 Some of the forum owners are selective with the info they publish...... Nothing like a scare story about players loosing funds to get visitors

I hope that does not refer to blonde - we have stressed, again & again, that in our view, Players Funds are not at risk. We have published facts - that PT owe us £7,000, not scare-stories.

So I'm curious what Forums you were referring to, though. Punters Lounge have not allowed the matter to be debated, & I have yet to see it anywhere else.

So what Forums are publishing "scare stories", please?

Tony,

Not directed at you at all.

I was under the kosh at the time as I was being fired questions on MSN. On my mind for some reason was the 'Tusk' situation. This was not said in public, and I only posted the whole conversation, as I didn't want any wrong conclusions to be drawn after I was 'partially' quoted.

Your clarification of your confidence is players funds is both accurate and appreciated, and it really was not meant as a dig at you guys at all.

Col

Valued comments.

I representative of ELG I understand has or will attempt to contact Tikay soon. I have also made them aware of this thread.

Regarding withdrawal payments at ELG, and completely unrelated.....

ELG have been changing their payment processors this week, which has resulted in a small delay to some deposits and withdrawals. The changes are for security reasons as the new platform will now incorporate 3D security (this is when you are diverted to your banks website and you are asked to enter a private code).

This change also means ELG will be able to accept UK Maestro cards direct.

I have been told that all outstanding transactions will be dealt with Monday.

Can't argue with anyone who's advice is not to leave too much money in one place these days, however PT's continuation or failure has no bearing on player's funds. They have never been held by PT, either now or in the past and like any responsible site, players funds are completely seperate from running costs.

Col

[Your money, deposits, withdrawals, poker points, potential future live event tickets and league prizes are 100% safe.]

Hi all,

I was hoping to keep quiet until I know exactly what the score is next week, but as Dom has partially quoted me from an MSN chat, I think I need to say something now. The full chat is posted beneath....

But to re-iterate.....

Yes the financial future of Trillion Ltd is questionable.

No, Players will not lose out in any way. The players are part of the ELG network which is in a sound financial position and is a EU gaming licenese holder (Malta LGA)

Also, I have been told by the network that players offers including points, league points (and potential prizes) and any live events they are saving for will be honoured. You have to remember if the PT players go, then the network would be a potential big loser.

This will not happen.

I am meeting with the network owners next week when it should become a lot clearer. I have also offered my time to ELG to work with them to ensure some continuity for the PT players.

As for the money which is owed to Blonde..... I have spoken with Tikay and said I will help Blonde in every way I can to ensure they can recover what they are owed. If Trillion Ltd did fold (and this is not certain) then I also am a creditor.

I am not speaking in an official capacity. I am not a director or any official officer of Trillion Ltd, just employed as marketing and operations manager.

So, please, if you are happy with PT currently (in the poker room sense) then there is no reason to withdrawal or stop playing.

Your money, deposits, withdrawals, poker points, potential future live event tickets and league prizes are 100% safe.

I don't think there is anything else I can add at this stage, and as soon as there is some more news, I will let you know.

Thanks

Col

dom says:
u there
dom says:
u there
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
hello, im here  now
dom says:
why r u having a 5000$ freerol
dom says:
when ur company owes 10,000$ out
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
I am hoping to find out exactly what is happening next week, however the freeroll is being paid for by the network, not PT, and it was won by the players. Whilst we overcome our current financial problems, we will work with the network to ensure that none of our players lsoe out in any way - if the freeroll was cancelled, then the players who won it would have lost out, and that would have been wr
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
wrong
dom says:
poker trillion = busto?
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
can i ask who you are, are you a creditor of PT?
dom says:
I play on PT
dom says:
and im a member of blinds forum
dom says:
blonde*
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
righty, the finacnial future of PT (the company) is uncertain, but should become clear next week. If the company did fold (and this is not certain) then the players would be accomadated by the ELG network, who have already said the current offers would be honoured, including any accumulated poker points and of course their actual balances
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
I have also told the network I would be willing to work with them if this was the case..... I too am a credtior of PT....
dom says:
ok
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
thanks, am here if you have any more questions, but above all, players funds / points and offers are 100% safe.....
dom says:
can i pass this info on
Colin - www.pokertrillion.com says:
it has been passed on already, nothing new here. Some of the forum owners are selective with the info they publish...... Nothing like a scare story about players loosing funds to get visitors
dom says:
ok
dom says:
interesting