Bad beat stories

[golferscrote]

i totally agree good point

[danmonkey]

Everbody likes a whinge now and again.

Posting/talking to other players is probably due to the desire to tell someone who might understand. After a series of body blows last night I received little sympathy from the missus who merely accused me of 'wasting our money'.

I'm thinking of starting an 'Ironside Inflicted Bad Beats' thread after a particularly painful one by the big man last night.

dan atleast i was playing poker when i took you out with my jacks v your AQ so the flop was queen high and you trapped checked me only to get rivered by a straight thats poker

when i went out with a health stack holding AA to the winner with his 83s (no i didnt slow play) now that hurt

Does sound painful ironside, I was just hoping we might get Mel to tell the tale of you cracking her AA after she 'slowplayed' it! 

[matt674]

Hi Red,

The bit i don't understand ?

If you have a BB.
That means you put your money in with the best hand.

You have a series of BBs.
You are now consistantley reading the situation correctly and getting other players to commit there chips when behind.

The only way you lose in 90% of tournies is to BBs.
Praise the lord you will be rolling in it SOON .

My personnel aim is to reach level 3 as quickly as possible.
Lets face it these things do even out and u can't mess with the odds/chance.

Bring on the BBs PLEASE !!!!

Regards
BA

 

Whilst i wholeheartedly agree with you BA i'd just like to make the following point.......

I hear a lot of people complain about bad beats as i play a lot of online poker but a lot of the time people just dont understand the law of averages and mathematics of what they are saying. Lets say you are cruisin along in a tourney, and you are about 30th out of 40 left in a tourney, and you are seriously looking to double up.

You get AK in first position, go all in, and are called by AQ. Hey Presto! You win. You now have 40k chips and are sitting on an average stack.

Next hand, AK again in the big blind. Sweet!!! There is a raise up front, and you decide to take it down with an all in bet. But wait, your opponent, who has you covered, calls you with... AJ? What a horrible call, right? Yes, it is, and he pays for it when a K flops and you take down the pot. Unbelievable!!! from 20k to 80k in 2 hands. Sweet!

Next hand, youre in the SB, and you get, what are the odds??, AK, again... it folds around to you, and you face the BB, who happens to be the chipleader of the tourney at a whopping 175k chips. He has been steamrolling everyone and has a huge lead over the field. What do you do? You know he could bust you if you let him catch anything on the flop, so you dont really want to mess with him... you cant fold AK though, so you push it all in hoping he folds...he thinks, thinks, thinks, and calls...with AQ!!!! He (or course!!!) spikes a Q and you are taking a walk thinking about what a horrible beat you took and how this always happens to you.... i mean, THIS IS TOTAL RUBBISH RIGHT? I ALWAYS GET SCREWED.....

WRONG. you are thinking about it in the wrong way.... You were all in 3 times with a 70% chance to win everytime. All you have to do is lose 1 out of 3 to be out of the tournament. Lets let the god of statistics speak to us now:

Winning 3 of 3 ---> .7x.7x.7 = .343

Thats right, only 34% of the time you are still in this tourney after that string of hands, and yet somehow people still think that they have been "screwed by an online poker site"... How reasonable is it to think that? Answer: Not Very.

The simple fact of the matter is that being all in is a risky proposition, and risk is what you want to avoid in tournaments until you absolutely have to face it. This is why racing early in a tournament is just plain foolish, and yet bad players do it constantly.

Whenever you are all in and not holding the absolute nuts with no cards to come, there is a chance you can get eliminated. Add up those small chances to get eliminated over the course of the tourney and it proves that it is very likely you will be eliminated somwhere.

"monkey boy"

p.s. BA, will you still be playing poker when you reach level 3 / 75 years of age? 

[ACE2M]

I very rarely whinge about about a bad beat. Notice when you explain your beat to somone in great detail and afterwards they explain their's, notice how bored you are when hearing their story... He was as bored as you are now.

Life is full of knocks it's just a knock in poker costs you a few quid but as they all say if you consistently get your money in with the best hand you will win over all.

This is why you should never have too much hinging on one session of poker, the luck may be with you or against you over this session but overall your good play will triumph.

 

[luckyblind]

I very rarely whinge about about a bad beat. Notice when you explain your beat to somone in great detail and afterwards they explain their's, notice how bored you are when hearing their story... He was as bored as you are now.

Life is full of knocks it's just a knock in poker costs you a few quid but as they all say if you consistently get your money in with the best hand you will win over all.

This is why you should never have too much hinging on one session of poker, the luck may be with you or against you over this session but overall your good play will triumph.

 

My thoughts exactly. I take more confidence from a run of Bad beats although it can get frustrating 

[Ironside]

Everbody likes a whinge now and again.

Posting/talking to other players is probably due to the desire to tell someone who might understand. After a series of body blows last night I received little sympathy from the missus who merely accused me of 'wasting our money'.

I'm thinking of starting an 'Ironside Inflicted Bad Beats' thread after a particularly painful one by the big man last night.

dan atleast i was playing poker when i took you out with my jacks v your AQ so the flop was queen high and you trapped checked me only to get rivered by a straight thats poker

when i went out with a health stack holding AA to the winner with his 83s (no i didnt slow play) now that hurt

Does sound painful ironside, I was just hoping we might get Mel to tell the tale of you cracking her AA after she 'slowplayed' it!

let see she had AA i had KJs and i made 2 pair and she went on to get thrashed at chess by me

[ifm]

Whenever you are all in and not holding the absolute nuts with no cards to come, there is a chance you can get eliminated. Add up those small chances to get eliminated over the course of the tourney and it proves that it is very likely you will be eliminated somwhere.

This is good advice, we did have a mini debate about "sliders" some time ago...........
I have always judged my overall performance in tournys (live or online) by the amount of times i'm allin (buyin period aside), and my proudest achievement was winning a 5 rebuy without being allin once!!

I once saw an interview with Phil Helmuth and he was asked how he was playing and he replied "very, very well, i've only been allin once and that was with the nuts"
Made me think about my style of play.
The truth of course (more and more often) is that players go allin against you and you are forced to make that crucial decision.
I have always believed that the VERY best players are the ones who are capable of laying down good draws, top pair etc. to raises/reraises, some folks call it being outplayed i disagree, it's playing the odds.
Ian

Damn my fingers hurt.

[b4matt]

500 p/l at luton.... i'm on 8000 points (average 12000) 2 seats off the button i pick up AK- 4 players limp in with the 400 bb i raise the pot 2000 points get 2 calls.... flop comes and kd checks round to me i go all-in 2 players call turn no bets..... river player 1 goes all- in he's called, he turns over he started the hand with 2000points more than me yet felt was good enough to call a maximum raise pre-flop, he then felt it was good enough to call another 4000 points raise on the flop with the only probable way of winning hitting his flush, prior to this i had been playing v tight and table image was good, i haven't played a massive amount live- probably 20 games. but in a 500 entry i just couldn't belive this..... AHHHHH THATS BETTER thanks for listening!!