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MrsLime
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Re: So you thought Monty Hall was tricky?
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October 09, 2006, 05:52:11 PM »
Ok, maybe algebra was a bad idea. How about:
Snoopy opens the envelope and finds £20. I.e. the envelope definitely contains £20! He thinks to himself: "Great I have £20, but... there is a 50% chance that Danafish's envelope contains £10, and 50% that Danafish's envelope contains £40. So if I swap envelopes, 50% of the time I lose £10 and 50% I gain £20. So, on average, I gain £5 by swapping. Therefore I should swap!"
Now where is the flaw?
(BTW, I don't know the answer, I am trying to understand as well.)
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Re: So you thought Monty Hall was tricky?
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October 09, 2006, 06:07:01 PM »
Both people think they gain by swapping. Agreed.
Here's my philosophy:
The other guy wants to swap because he thinks he'll gain.
So I refuse to swap, therefore I gain what he thought he would gain.
And if I'm wrong, he goes "neener neener" and sticks his tongue out.
But I'm financially better off than I was 5 minutes ago, so who cares.
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October 09, 2006, 06:15:43 PM »
Quote from: roverthtaeh on October 09, 2006, 06:07:01 PM
Both people think they gain by swapping. Agreed.
Here's my philosophy:
The other guy wants to swap because he thinks he'll gain.
So I refuse to swap, therefore I gain what he thought he would gain.
Unfortunately, your logic is far from impeccable.
Suppose you say to me: "Do you want to swap this used tampon for $1,000,000?"
I say "No."
Therefore I have just gained $1,000,000?
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October 09, 2006, 06:20:28 PM »
You under-rate used tampons
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October 09, 2006, 06:21:28 PM »
No you havnt gained 1Million you have NOT LOST 1million BIG Difference
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October 09, 2006, 06:27:20 PM »
Yeah, and I've still got my tampon
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October 09, 2006, 06:30:53 PM »
Quote from: roverthtaeh on October 09, 2006, 06:20:28 PM
You under-rate used tampons
Hey, I value used tampons as much as the next man, but I doubt you could present me with one so juicy and pungent that it was worth
ONE MILLION DOLLARS
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Quote from: MrsLime on October 09, 2006, 06:30:53 PM
Quote from: roverthtaeh on October 09, 2006, 06:20:28 PM
You under-rate used tampons
Hey, I value used tampons as much as the next man, but I doubt you could present me with one so juicy and pungent that it was worth
ONE MILLION DOLLARS
. Now you are just being silly.
What might one be worth from the private suite of, say... Angelina Jolie?
And could I try it on ebay?
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October 09, 2006, 07:31:38 PM »
this thread has turned gross!
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All my fantasies dashed... Oh well there's always that new character in Lost, Juliet
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