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« on: October 14, 2006, 08:05:56 PM »

Main Event
Blinds = 300/600
Stack = 2,200

You (sb) = Two Diamonds
Opponent (mid pos) =

Flop =

you check, bb checks, MB checks

Turn =

you check, bb checks, MB bets 1,500

(1) What should you do?

(2) What should you do if, hypothetically, you could see his cards? (3 outs to win, 28 to split)

(3) Was I wrong to check the Turn?

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2006, 08:45:09 PM »

If you can see his cards , you fold.
It all depends on your image, their image, stacks dynamics of the table.
On the flop, you might bet, but then how likely s/he believe u u have a hand.

NHLE is not a game where cards are most important so therefore the question is what kind of players you are against.  If i know he has A7 and i bet into him on the flop, will he still call?

Sometimes s/he will, sometimes s/he will fold. It all depends.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2006, 02:03:08 AM »

1. Well, anything other than a fold is a pure bluff... so the question is really 'Is it time to bluff?'

2. If you were heads-up, then I suppose you could raise all-in.  (You didn't mention stack sizes but I'm assuming you are both deep enough that he can fold.)  BB probably doesn't have any of it, but who knows.

3. I would have check-folded.

I presume there was no action pre-flop!
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2006, 02:06:17 AM »

1. Well, anything other than a fold is a pure bluff... so the question is really 'Is it time to bluff?'

2. If you were heads-up, then I suppose you could raise all-in.  (You didn't mention stack sizes but I'm assuming you are both deep enough that he can fold.)  BB probably doesn't have any of it, but who knows.

3. I would have check-folded.

I presume there was no action pre-flop!

Sry, I forgot to mention that I only had 2,200

It was clear the bb didn't have anything, and I was pretty sure that the worst case scenrio was being up against a better Ace. (A-9 max). I thought that if he did have that hand, I had a load of outs for a split pot. I stuck it in because I thought there was a good chance I was winning (ie, he was betting a Queen or pocket pair, or maybe even bluffing), but, in hindsight, I should have folded because the Turn gave a possible flush draw. Also, I think it was too likely that he had that Ace, even if I did have outs for a split. Stupid play by me.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2006, 02:08:01 AM »

Sry, I forgot to mention that I only had 2,200

Why did you call pre-flop?
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2006, 02:11:45 AM »

Sry, I forgot to mention that I only had 2,200

Why did you call pre-flop?

cos it was only 300. You think that was too much for a 2,500 stack?

ps. I've added to my previous post.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2006, 02:31:43 AM »

Look, I'm a bit shit at tournaments but I would certainly have moved all-in preflop -- a raise of 2200 into a pot of 1800 is more than reasonable.

As to question #2, you have 36% pot equity. [Not sure if that is the correct terminology.]  Raising all-in (which will certainly be called) gives you pot odds of 4000:2200, so it is very slightly +EV to do so.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2006, 01:27:58 PM »

Look, I'm a bit shit at tournaments but I would certainly have moved all-in preflop -- a raise of 2200 into a pot of 1800 is more than reasonable.

As to question #2, you have 36% pot equity. [Not sure if that is the correct terminology.]  Raising all-in (which will certainly be called) gives you pot odds of 4000:2200, so it is very slightly +EV to do so.


I agree with Ms Kitty, don't flat call pre-flop, stick them in there or fold there. the "Cus it's only 300" thing doesn't work when it's more than 10% of your chip stack.

And I would probably move all in when the turn comes down...but that is assuming we are already in the money stage or a long way away from it.
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