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« on: March 14, 2008, 12:42:20 PM »

Full Tilt Poker Game #5628328970: Table Ariba (6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:26:29 ET - 2008/03/14
Seat 1: JimmyP_BOOM ($667)
Seat 2: Villain1318 ($609.45), is sitting out
Seat 3: YoungKeeper ($893.70)
Seat 4: UpTheMariners ($1,188.55)
Seat 5: zanjan ($279)
Seat 6: jwpoker4 ($681)
zanjan posts the small blind of $3
jwpoker4 posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UpTheMariners [ ]
JimmyP_BOOM folds
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper raises to $21
Villain1318 stands up
UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act
UpTheMariners raises to $66
JealousMonk adds $600
zanjan folds
jwpoker4 folds
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper calls $45
*** FLOP *** [ ]
YoungKeeper checks
UpTheMariners bets $108
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper calls $108
*** TURN *** [ ] []
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper bets $222
UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act

do you think this is a good spot to bluff? YoungKeeper is running at 36/22/2 over 150 hands. i really dont think he would bet out with an 8 and if he already has a made hand is he going to check call on this draw heavy board? he has also made a bet where he can fold to a shove but can i get it through?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 01:20:20 PM »

I think you are generally in trouble here.  When he calls your c-bet in a 3-bet pot oop, it looks like he has a reasonable piece of the flop.  I think he would bet an 8 as you will check the turn a lot. 

ok you are clearly repping 88 with a raise, but I doubt if he buys this.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 01:20:37 PM »

Full Tilt Poker Game #5628328970: Table Ariba (6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:26:29 ET - 2008/03/14
Seat 1: JimmyP_BOOM ($667)
Seat 2: Villain1318 ($609.45), is sitting out
Seat 3: YoungKeeper ($893.70)
Seat 4: UpTheMariners ($1,188.55)
Seat 5: zanjan ($279)
Seat 6: jwpoker4 ($681)
zanjan posts the small blind of $3
jwpoker4 posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UpTheMariners [ ]
JimmyP_BOOM folds
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper raises to $21
Villain1318 stands up
UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act
UpTheMariners raises to $66
JealousMonk adds $600
zanjan folds
jwpoker4 folds
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper calls $45
*** FLOP *** [ ]
YoungKeeper checks
UpTheMariners bets $108
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper calls $108
*** TURN *** [ ] []
YoungKeeper has 15 seconds left to act
YoungKeeper bets $222
UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act

do you think this is a good spot to bluff? YoungKeeper is running at 36/22/2 over 150 hands. i really dont think he would bet out with an 8 and if he already has a made hand is he going to check call on this draw heavy board? he has also made a bet where he can fold to a shove but can i get it through?

In his shoes ur betting makes little sense. I dont know how your image so would like to know ur 3-betting history. I dont think it get through often enough to warrant a shove.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 02:35:49 PM »

The problem is your repping an 8 and a 8 only here. Would you really shove with a set/2pair here?

Given the preflop action 88,87s,89s and a8s are probably the only hand in your 3betting range generally. This is a large range and so totally missed hands like yours are at least as likley.

Given he is getting a monster overlay now to call the shove, he will call you with most pieces of this flop. Which is likley given his float/bet line.

I would only do this against a non-thinking tight player.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 02:37:11 PM »


I would only do this against a non-thinking tight player.

you rang?
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 02:56:17 PM »


I would only do this against a non-thinking tight player.

you rang?

Lol im pretty much describing myself most of the time as well.
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