Rookie cash game ???? easy to lay this down????

[I KNOW IT]

I too play very little cash but want to start, so recently I asked a friend who excels in both cash and tournament play what the big difference is between the two games.
He explained that on cash games unlike tournys, you are not trying to win all the chips on the table.

In reading into that thought process I think the 1st mistake was not re raising when you had the opputunity pre flop to issolate the raiser.This re raise would have got rid of hands such as K 10, so then  after the flop you could have almost certain eliminated the chance of anyone holding the made straight.Also with a reraise you would have found out if the button had AA.

On the flop, you  bet  $1500 into an $825 pot. Its a big overbet to ask a question of the other two guys.
The big blind answers by flat calling.You must ask yourself what hand could he have to just flat call.

The turn is a blank and the big blind pushes in $4500 into a $3825 pot. You now have to seriously think if he does have the straight are you getting pot odds to call.
The answer is NO. If he has a made straight you are a 78% - 22% underdog to win the pot.

Its easy to evaluate after the hand but at the time I would have probably called too, but like I said I dont usually play cash games.

[Longy]

Pre flop i don't like to be honest but hey this isn't a pre flop question. Once the flop comes down there is no way im getting out. You did the right thing and ran into a monster. You have re draw outs against every hand apart from aa and i don't think he has that. So you are going to do your money on this flop/ board

[Nem]

I too play very little cash but want to start, so recently I asked a friend who excels in both cash and tournament play what the big difference is between the two games.
He explained that on cash games unlike tournys, you are not trying to win all the chips on the table.

In reading into that thought process I think the 1st mistake was not re raising when you had the opputunity pre flop to issolate the raiser.This re raise would have got rid of hands such as K 10, so then  after the flop you could have almost certain eliminated the chance of anyone holding the made straight.Also with a reraise you would have found out if the button had AA.

On the flop, you  bet  $1500 into an $825 pot. Its a big overbet to ask a question of the other two guys.
The big blind answers by flat calling.You must ask yourself what hand could he have to just flat call.

The turn is a blank and the big blind pushes in $4500 into a $3825 pot. You now have to seriously think if he does have the straight are you getting pot odds to call.
The answer is NO. If he has a made straight you are a 78% - 22% underdog to win the pot.

Its easy to evaluate after the hand but at the time I would have probably called too, but like I said I dont usually play cash games.

[I KNOW IT]

It has everything to do with the preflop play. IMO this is where the hand was lost

The way Brian has played this hand preflop has led to the uncertainties on the flop.
 He didnt get the information from a preflop re-raise to find out the strength of the other guys hands.
Making it very hard to determine whether hes up against the straight, because if he is ,hes not getting the odds after the turn to call.

ps  thanks Nemesis

[robyong]

I would have wrongly or rightly:

Pre-Flop: Limped UTG and flatcalled the raise hoping to win a big pot with a set (playing implied odds rather than pot odds, (I'm happy to lay my QQ down if the flop/ action looks like I am beat or there is a huge draw aginst me)

Flop / Turn/River : Check called all the way (ie. If I re-raise or move-all in I'm only getting action from KT anyway, so I want to win the maximum and lose the minimum, I don't want to show strenth either way)

This a very dangerous flop for a set, and KT is a playable hand for £250 to win £10,000 . I think I am ahead on the flop, but can't be sure, so in a cash game I want to look weak by check-calling and take a view on my opponents actions on each street. If I have him beat, I milk him but I don't want to show strength as he could set me all-in and I would have to call with trip Q's. This type of slowplaying, looking weak has saved me big pots in the past, when my opponent tries to keep me in v his nuts and does not set me all-in.

[wsopin07]

I would have wrongly or rightly:

Pre-Flop: Limped UTG and flatcalled the raise hoping to win a big pot with a set (playing implied odds rather than pot odds, (I'm happy to lay my QQ down if the flop/ action looks like I am beat or there is a huge draw aginst me)

Flop / Turn/River : Check called all the way (ie. If I re-raise or move-all in I'm only getting action from KT anyway, so I want to win the maximum and lose the minimum, I don't want to show strenth either way)

This a very dangerous flop for a set, and KT is a playable hand for £250 to win £10,000 . I think I am ahead on the flop, but can't be sure, so in a cash game I want to look weak by check-calling and take a view on my opponents actions on each street. If I have him beat, I milk him but I don't want to show strength as he could set me all-in and I would have to call with trip Q's. This type of slowplaying, looking weak has saved me big pots in the past, when my opponent tries to keep me in v his nuts and does not set me all-in.

well said, i like it, thanks