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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2008, 03:20:08 AM »

calling pre is fine, i dnot like 3 betting since it really sucks if someone overshoves/original raiser shoves and it will be a good stack size to shove over (5-6x your 3 bet) so they can mix air with hands well.  also I think folding is too nitty for someone VPIPing 50%.  you mentioned you knew his style from updates but it would probably be useful if you elaborate (is he known for being a nit for instance) cos I have no clue who he is.  calling or folding the flop is good i think.  raisings pretty much the worst option since so many draws are shipping in on you as well as sets etc so your equity vs their draws/sets/two pair range is not great and nothing worse is sticking it (KJ probably folds for instance).  also he doesn't fold too often/you get overshovers frequently on that board - he is cbetting into 3 people on a board that is likely to have hit everyone.  alarm bells should be going off.  i'd probably call and evaluate on the turn.

btw, with all due respect, it is annoying when people say what they do with no basis for their reasoning when it isnt explicitly obvious whats good.  this is a pretty tough spot so "i'd call" or "i dont like the raise" don't really cut it (i'm aware i'm probably extremely guilty of this too tho Cheesy)
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2008, 04:15:21 PM »

calling pre is fine, i dnot like 3 betting since it really sucks if someone overshoves/original raiser shoves and it will be a good stack size to shove over (5-6x your 3 bet) so they can mix air with hands well.  also I think folding is too nitty for someone VPIPing 50%.  you mentioned you knew his style from updates but it would probably be useful if you elaborate (is he known for being a nit for instance) cos I have no clue who he is.  calling or folding the flop is good i think.  raisings pretty much the worst option since so many draws are shipping in on you as well as sets etc so your equity vs their draws/sets/two pair range is not great and nothing worse is sticking it (KJ probably folds for instance).  also he doesn't fold too often/you get overshovers frequently on that board - he is cbetting into 3 people on a board that is likely to have hit everyone.  alarm bells should be going off.  i'd probably call and evaluate on the turn.

btw, with all due respect, it is annoying when people say what they do with no basis for their reasoning when it isnt explicitly obvious whats good.  this is a pretty tough spot so "i'd call" or "i dont like the raise" don't really cut it (i'm aware i'm probably extremely guilty of this too tho Cheesy)


pretty good but tight from what iv heard.
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2008, 09:28:00 AM »

What do we know about the button?

Only played about 2 hands out of 15, but have formed no real opinion of him yet...


Fold pre.

Thanks, helpful...


You're using the phrase "the button called annoyingly"...

Didnt say I blame him or disagree with him calling, but from my point of view its not great...



My thoughts, in hindisght I dont like my flop play, and yes maybe pre this should be a fold... Once I see the button dwell for more than 15-20 seconds i'm pretty sure he's putting them in and i'm way behind, at worst I think he has J8... Yes its a great price, but the only i can possible want him to turn over is Ah + h, which i didnt think he had this early, he turned over 9's anyway for a set...

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