Next move?

[deputydawg]

Already locked in our money back from this satellite which is for tickets to a final APT qualifier worth $270 (so not a massive prize) - top 2 get a ticket, 3 left

What do you do from here?


Table #11969299 - Tournament #7634847 Table #1
Starting Hand #593030595
Start time of hand: 26 Nov 2008 23:16:30
Last Hand #593029567
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $300/$600
Button is at seat 5
Seat 2: hero - $11,508
Seat 3: caspran - $10,362
Seat 5: KENPIN - $13,130
Moving Button to seat 2
hero posts ante of $75
caspran posts ante of $75
KENPIN posts ante of $75
caspran posts small blind ($300)
KENPIN posts big blind ($600)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [ ] to hero
hero raises to $1,800
caspran folds
KENPIN calls $1,800
Dealing Flop [ Ah ]
KENPIN checks
hero bets $1,800
KENPIN calls $1,800
Dealing Turn []
KENPIN checks

[anthonyl]

I'd def bet the flop, but prob a little more than you did. Hard to put him on a hand as no draws he can be calling with, so from the flop call im probably putting him on 22,33,44,55,77,88. A9-AK aren't in his range as he is probably shoving you pre flop.

I'd usually check the turn to control the pot and just call any river bet, and possibly value bet if he checks the river as he can't have an ace (A6-A8) if he is doing that

[AlexMartin]

id prolly check back the flop to let him bluff/ keep pot manageable.

[deputydawg]

I'd def bet the flop, but prob a little more than you did. Hard to put him on a hand as no draws he can be calling with, so from the flop call im probably putting him on 22,33,44,55,77,88. A9-AK aren't in his range as he is probably shoving you pre flop.

I'd usually check the turn to control the pot and just call any river bet, and possibly value bet if he checks the river as he can't have an ace (A6-A8) if he is doing that

What if he pushes?

id prolly check back the flop to let him bluff/ keep pot manageable.

If he bets do you call or reraise and what if he shoves?

[bolt pp]

I'd def bet the flop, but prob a little more than you did. Hard to put him on a hand as no draws he can be calling with, so from the flop call im probably putting him on 22,33,44,55,77,88. A9-AK aren't in his range as he is probably shoving you pre flop.

I'd usually check the turn to control the pot and just call any river bet, and possibly value bet if he checks the river as he can't have an ace (A6-A8) if he is doing that

What if he pushes?

id prolly check back the flop to let him bluff/ keep pot manageable.

If he bets do you call or reraise and what if he shoves?

lol, NEVER reraise here!!!!!  call

[MANTIS01]

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to check the flop. If I raised pre-flop with any hand that doesn't include an Ace I would bet that flop. So checking because I do have an Ace is inconsistent. Also if you check the flop and your oppo fires on the turn how would you explain your subsequent call? Your oppo will then know you have an Ace or possibly a 6. Either way you're not getting any more business from hands you beat. Much better just to bet the flop. Now your oppo can come along or play back with many hands because he doesn't believe. I am happy to check the turn behind because if your oppo is floating this check will tell him you have nada and you've been collared. He will think he is smart. So this play invites bluffs on the river from lots of hands you beat. It also gets hands that beat you actually betting less on the river because they think you've given up on the hand.

[x_posed]

I think I def bet the flop here and when he calls and checks the turn, obviously depending on how strong a player he is, I would prob put him on a heart flush draw here and doesn't want to get it in with a draw on the bubble. Of course, there is a chance he has a 6 here but I dont really think that's in his range (unless its A6). I'd prob put him on something like and would want to make him pay for any draws instead of giving him a free river. Mantis does make a good argument for checking the turn to induce a bluff on the river but the two flush draws out there make this a risky play imo.

[TheChipPrince]

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to check the flop. If I raised pre-flop with any hand that doesn't include an Ace I would bet that flop. So checking because I do have an Ace is inconsistent.

I check with or without the A, so that is consistent.  Lets keep things manageable here, were either winning a little or losing a lot on the flop if bet/somehow get it all in...

[deputydawg]

as I thought I played this like a %&*!

I pushed on the turn having decided a flush draw was likely and he called with 

Thankfully it wasn't a bubble for the actual APT qualifier and I can have another go

[MANTIS01]

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to check the flop. If I raised pre-flop with any hand that doesn't include an Ace I would bet that flop. So checking because I do have an Ace is inconsistent.

I check with or without the A, so that is consistent.  Lets keep things manageable here, were either winning a little or losing a lot on the flop if bet/somehow get it all in...

That is consistent so ok. But if you always check the flop then a) you have no chance of winning the pot when you don't hit, and b) you aren't putting any money in when you flop Aces up in a 3-handed game. I don't like the concept of checking the flop to manage the pot. Better pot management is getting it a bit bigger imo. You can manage a slightly bigger pot by checking the turn.