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StuartHopkin
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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Quote from: GreekStein on January 04, 2009, 11:43:02 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on January 04, 2009, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: GreekStein on January 04, 2009, 06:11:58 PM
did you tell everyone you hadn't looked at your hand?
How do you know about this cos?
He used the line on me the first and only time I met Stu, when I raised JJ utg in a cash game and he repopped it quite big on the button. Instead of shoving pre I decided to peel a flop and get it in on the safe 1087 flop to be instacalled when Stu remarkably found his blind reraise was with kings.
[ ] I was upset when the
hit the turn
Ah
I can honestly say that i had not looked at my cards when i first raised. It was meant to be a straddle that was just a little late.
I thought you may have been reffering to a more recent incident of not looking at my cards carnage.
[ ] Not looking at my cards is big
[ ] Not looking at my cards is clever
[X] Not looking at my cards is frickin stupid
[ ] Ive got your jack out my eye
[X] That sounds a liitle wrong
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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Anyway, as you may have guessed I folded.
I figured it was the best plan, I thought I was behind, I feel I have a big edge in these tournaments, especially against my starting table in this event, I could find easier/better spots.
MP then moves all in. Whats his range here?
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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Quote from: StuartHopkin on January 05, 2009, 05:55:12 PM
Anyway, as you may have guessed I folded.
I figured it was the best plan, I thought I was behind, I feel I have a big edge in these tournaments, especially against my starting table in this event, I could find easier/better spots.
MP then moves all in. Whats his range here?
If it was who I think it was then pretty much atc.
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Im assuming you didnt know this at the time though?
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June, you didnt rly fold did you?
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Quote from: Horneris on January 06, 2009, 01:42:59 PM
June, you didnt rly fold did you?
Im afraid so Hannah
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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January 06, 2009, 08:11:04 PM »
pretty much of the opinion as mantis,but as played you should lead out,just over 1/2 pot would be ok..
i would not look to check raise OOP on a 1 suited flop with a set, maybe i might on a 2 suited flop but you need to know your opponents will bet out the majority of the time to do this as potentially with you OOP your opponent can now check and get a free turn card.
As played though i would FOLD due to the action, if they are solid? then i'd expect to see on this particular texture of flop 44 or a made flush...Its hard to think of anything that will limp call raise and then for 2 solid players to get aggressive about on this texture board,small pairs and suited connectors fit the action maybe 1 has hit 2 pair with a raggy suited ace A4s ?
Saying that you'll probably say that they both had utter cack
if you go all in you are about 1.9 to 1 to make your boat against a made flush...not good for your bankroll if you keep taking these type of odds early on in mtts in the long term imo...
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January 07, 2009, 09:40:05 AM »
just fold for information
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January 07, 2009, 04:53:31 PM »
Quote from: noble1 on January 06, 2009, 08:11:04 PM
Saying that you'll probably say that they both had utter cack
MP moves all in.
Button dwells and folds AQ no hearts.
MP then shows A3 (the 3 was a heart!)
I then call them both a pair of crazy betting bastards.
I get told of for swearing.
General convo about my nitty fold.
Unrelated player tells me im tighter than a virgin jew.
Worked out well though as with all the banter goin on i picked up
on a
board.
Stacked the bloke next to me because he thought i wasnt upset about the last hand.
Fool. I was proud of my nitty fold.
P.s. Mid position player was the tez guy who came 8th, didnt deserve to be in after the first couple of hours. Everyone should watch out for him. He will happily reraise you all in if he has two vaguley connected cards under 6. Comes across as if he is tight and knows the game but after a while you realise he is a clown.
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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January 07, 2009, 05:18:47 PM »
It's a good pass then.
MP would've hit his heart and gone around shouting and screaming and you'd have been forced to punch him in the mouth.
You would then be banned and on life tilt for losing to such a shite player.
However, on the plus side you would've been Chill's hero for punching the guy who muffed her KK with his 3 5.
I think the guy who had the overpair to his 2 4 would've been quite happy as well. AIPF and he goes jumping round and runs half way across the cardroom when he flops A 3 5 for the straight.
Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewat!!!!!
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What kind of fuckery is this?
Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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January 07, 2009, 06:21:16 PM »
MP - Seemed to know what he was doing
MP - Is a clown
Yep, this is gonna make a difference. Also means button's raising range is far wider than we first thought.
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Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 07, 2009, 06:21:16 PM
MP - Seemed to know what he was doing
MP - Is a clown
Yep, this is gonna make a difference. Also means button's raising range is far wider than we first thought.
Mantis this was done intentionally.
He lost a lot of his stack early and then rebuilt it with some well times raises etc.
This hand was the first time we got to see his clown side.
Upto this point i dont think anyone at the table would have realised how bad he was.
If i told you it was the guy who knocked Chilli out, the guy who Dingdell describes as loving low connected cards, or the guy who needed a punch in the mouth on day 2 when he won the 4 2, it would of obviously been different.
I tried to describe him as I viewed him pre that hand.
I adjusted to his terribleness after this, and the Chilli hand. I got it in good and he knocked me out.
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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January 07, 2009, 06:49:49 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on January 07, 2009, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 07, 2009, 06:21:16 PM
MP - Seemed to know what he was doing
MP - Is a clown
Yep, this is gonna make a difference. Also means button's raising range is far wider than we first thought.
Mantis this was done intentionally.
He lost a lot of his stack early and then rebuilt it with some well times raises etc.
This hand was the first time we got to see his clown side.
Upto this point i dont think anyone at the table would have realised how bad he was.
If i told you it was the guy who knocked Chilli out, the guy who Dingdell describes as loving low connected cards, or the guy who needed a punch in the mouth on day 2 when he won the 4 2, it would of obviously been different.
I tried to describe him as I viewed him pre that hand.
I adjusted to his terribleness after this, and the Chilli hand. I got it in good and he knocked me out.
For sure. Not having a pop about that buddy, just highlighting what a big difference it makes.
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Re: Flopped set on a 3 heart board
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January 07, 2009, 08:45:46 PM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 07, 2009, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on January 07, 2009, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 07, 2009, 06:21:16 PM
MP - Seemed to know what he was doing
MP - Is a clown
Yep, this is gonna make a difference. Also means button's raising range is far wider than we first thought.
Mantis this was done intentionally.
He lost a lot of his stack early and then rebuilt it with some well times raises etc.
This hand was the first time we got to see his clown side.
Upto this point i dont think anyone at the table would have realised how bad he was.
If i told you it was the guy who knocked Chilli out, the guy who Dingdell describes as loving low connected cards, or the guy who needed a punch in the mouth on day 2 when he won the 4 2, it would of obviously been different.
I tried to describe him as I viewed him pre that hand.
I adjusted to his terribleness after this, and the Chilli hand. I got it in good and he knocked me out.
For sure. Not having a pop about that buddy, just highlighting what a big difference it makes.
Didnt think you were having a go Mantis, just making sure were on the same page.
Thanks for your thoughts and opinions.
Same to everyone else. Turns out im a little tighter than I thought.
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