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[Acidmouse]

Sorry to hear about this, hope you can settle down and feel more comfortable soon.

[Rod Paradise]

I also wish people would stop making excuses for drug-users. They have already made their choices in life. It costs us, as law abiding taxpayers a fortune to try and exist alongside these people, and pay for their addiction. We are constantly told that jail is too expensive, and yet successve governments have missed the point - given the choice about using our tax pounds to keep these people on the street, or in jail, then the majority of people would favour the latter.

These people offer zero to society.

To quote Bill Hicks "take all your good albums, and burn them".

[Acidmouse]

I also wish people would stop making excuses for drug-users. They have already made their choices in life. It costs us, as law abiding taxpayers a fortune to try and exist alongside these people, and pay for their addiction. These people offer zero to society.

Many people make the wrong choices but luckily we live in a society that provides avenues to get back into work and off drugs. Obviously helping drug addicts does not have a 100% success rate but what are the alternatives?

"A society is ultimately judged by how it treats its weakest and most vulnerable members". - rings true here. Throwing about comments about drug addicts offering zero to society is incorrect. There are plenty of groups of people that for whatever reason will never be able to contribute to society in terms of tax, working etc. Looking at ways to help them will ultimately save money in the long run and hopefully help them off drugs.

I dislike smackheads as much as others, I have had friends fall into this spiral off desperation because of heroin and I have seen the long path back to recovery for them.

[Colchester Kev]

arguments like this alwas polarize opinions between the "hang em high" brigade (of which I probably am one), and the handwringers whose inability to condemn and criticize these wrongdoers is also unhelpful in trying to solve the problem. The solution, like most things lies somewhere in the middle.

I also wish people would stop making excuses for drug-users. They have already made their choices in life. It costs us, as law abiding taxpayers a fortune to try and exist alongside these people, and pay for their addiction. We are constantly told that jail is too expensive, and yet successve governments have missed the point - given the choice about using our tax pounds to keep these people on the street, or in jail, then the majority of people would favour the latter.

These people offer zero to society.

This !

[Ismene]

I'm sorry that my post has upset you, it wasn't my intention.
Your 1st post translated to my speak was "Feisty middle class woman comes home to find a homeless person had broken into her (unoccupied) second home and decides to use the full force of the law on this poor bastard because he broke a window to get in.She then proceeds to nearly kick him down the stairs and gives him a right earbashing as the rozzers cart off said miscreant to the local workhouse to break rocks for a week. That'll teach him.
So i was going to post something along the lines of "why don't you get your Gamekeeper to  have him shot" or some other trite remark but alas it was not to be and instead I posted the seemingly far more offensive and vitriol inducing " I hope you don't press charges Ding, it can't be very pleasant being homeless in the middle of December" which is still a fair enough comment considering the version of events I was commenting on.
Your reply to me painted a very different picture of events which were obviously unknown to me when I posted, yet you seem have turned this into a diatribe against me, just for suggesting some leniency on someone who was described as homeless. Not the dirty thieving threatening nasty piece of work you later described.
.
But now it's somehow been turned into how dare you, after all I've been through and a " How would you like it if your wife or girlfriend etc"
Well I'll tell you how my wife would like it, she would think it was a pleasant relief from all the shit she puts up with day in day out In a hospital A+E department.
Do you get spat at at least once a week by drunks? are you pushed, punched or kicked almost daily? are you verbally abused, have explicit sexual innuendos shouted at you regularly do you get threatened by people from all walks of life because they are drunk and angry.The ones that shout "I'm going to find out where you live" well one day one of them just might do that. I've just got to hope i'm at home at the same time if they come.How do you think it feels being the husband of someone in that situation, your natural reaction is to want to find out who they are and where they live and pay them a visit but obviously that would be a silly thing to do so you either worry yourself to death, become bitter and antagonistic or try to forget about it.
So I would rather she got frightened by a squatter living in the shed (my equivalent of your 2nd property) once in a while, than having to deal with the twats that try to make her life miserable on a daily basis.

You got a bit of a fright and it's going to cost a couple of hundred to fix, so what, stick it in the whinge thread, life can be shit but someone else's is always worse, get over it you'll make it worse worrying about it etc,
No need to twist it to make me the villain.


The Heroin issue is another argument altogether and I can't be arsed.

Up yours Rookie my posts are never piss poor.

Cheers Bolt (the voice of reason).

An apology would have been so much better.

Saying sorry then sticking the boot in doesn't count as an apology imo

Hey Dingaling - you're stronger than you think - and 2009 is a whole new year! Take care honey.

[cia260895]

hey ding just caught this and can i just say WTF you had the chance to boot him down the stairs and injure him which could have resulted in the paramedics to be called out,then you would have hit your set.......sigh i dunno a missed opportunity there hun       

btw (above statement is toungue in cheek)

but hey lets put all this bad shit from 2008 in the bin and move onward and upward into 2009  FTW

[DUNK619]

I'm sorry that my post has upset you, it wasn't my intention.
Your 1st post translated to my speak was "Feisty middle class woman comes home to find a homeless person had broken into her (unoccupied) second home and decides to use the full force of the law on this poor bastard because he broke a window to get in.She then proceeds to nearly kick him down the stairs and gives him a right earbashing as the rozzers cart off said miscreant to the local workhouse to break rocks for a week. That'll teach him.
So i was going to post something along the lines of "why don't you get your Gamekeeper to  have him shot" or some other trite remark but alas it was not to be and instead I posted the seemingly far more offensive and vitriol inducing " I hope you don't press charges Ding, it can't be very pleasant being homeless in the middle of December" which is still a fair enough comment considering the version of events I was commenting on.
Your reply to me painted a very different picture of events which were obviously unknown to me when I posted, yet you seem have turned this into a diatribe against me, just for suggesting some leniency on someone who was described as homeless. Not the dirty thieving threatening nasty piece of work you later described.
.
But now it's somehow been turned into how dare you, after all I've been through and a " How would you like it if your wife or girlfriend etc"
Well I'll tell you how my wife would like it, she would think it was a pleasant relief from all the shit she puts up with day in day out In a hospital A+E department.
Do you get spat at at least once a week by drunks? are you pushed, punched or kicked almost daily? are you verbally abused, have explicit sexual innuendos shouted at you regularly do you get threatened by people from all walks of life because they are drunk and angry.The ones that shout "I'm going to find out where you live" well one day one of them just might do that. I've just got to hope i'm at home at the same time if they come.How do you think it feels being the husband of someone in that situation, your natural reaction is to want to find out who they are and where they live and pay them a visit but obviously that would be a silly thing to do so you either worry yourself to death, become bitter and antagonistic or try to forget about it.
So I would rather she got frightened by a squatter living in the shed (my equivalent of your 2nd property) once in a while, than having to deal with the twats that try to make her life miserable on a daily basis.

You got a bit of a fright and it's going to cost a couple of hundred to fix, so what, stick it in the whinge thread, life can be shit but someone else's is always worse, get over it you'll make it worse worrying about it etc,
No need to twist it to make me the villain.


The Heroin issue is another argument altogether and I can't be arsed.

Up yours Rookie my posts are never piss poor.

Cheers Bolt (the voice of reason).

 your post was very piss poor   your wife chooses to work there ding didnt choose to come to her property shes Worked to buy and find a junky squatter  that has no right been there.   hope all is well ding take care