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« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2009, 08:34:42 PM »

I'd like to put forward the argument that the heavyweight division has consistently had the poorest boxers in terms of skill and ability.  Of course there have been amazing, exciting fights in the heavyweight division - and there have been some special heavyweights.  But it's always been a division filled with over-weight, over-rated fighters who might have a big punch but aren't exactly 'pugilist specialists' (copyright Eubank).  It's the 'freak show division quite often, a spectacle.  Maybe this is why Ali stood out so much.



This. Ali was obv amazing, and Holyfield and Tyson were also prime skillful athletes who were more than just big bastards with a punch, that's about it for heavyweights in the last 40 years. Lewis was pretty good, but he was just a big bloke like the rest. I for one have rarely be entertained by heavyweight fights themselves, its just the drama that comes with them I have found exciting - Bruno finally winning a world title, tyson biting peoples ears, parachutes in the ring, Oliver McCall losing his mind in the ring, Golota vs Bowe and the riot that ensued etc etc - its the freak show that made it entertaining.

Now Barrera vs Morales 1 - that is entertaining boxing.

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« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2009, 11:48:04 PM »

I wouldn't have Lewis anyone near my top 10 heavyweights of all time and I don't think many lists would. I have no doubt if you could have bottled the 80's Tyson that he would make the list but the fact is that his record is even worse than Lewis's for ever beating any great Heavyweight (Michael Spinks is probably the best on his record), Holyfield is the only who would get close to a top 10 for me.

None of them come close to the likes of Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Marciano, Ali, Foreman, and Fraizer (Thats my top 8 fwiw)

Tough call for me. I'd say Lewis makes my top 10 to be fair. I'm talking peak vs peak here, I can't see him losing to too many others from other generations. At his best (32-36) he was awesome. Completely controlling. I'd have Lewis over Foreman anyway.

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