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« on: June 12, 2009, 06:28:15 PM »


supermario29 ($41.05)
Evilpie2 ($168)
oli2222 ($94)
antalya100 ($36.75)
IsMiseJ ($77.75)

supermario29 posts (SB) $0.50
Evilpie2 posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Evilpie2
fold,
antalya100 raises to $2
IsMiseJ calls $2
supermario29 calls $1.50
Evilpie2 calls $1

FLOP ($8)
check, check, check,
IsMiseJ bets $8
supermario29 folds
Evilpie2 calls $8
antalya100 folds

TURN ($24) two hearts
Evilpie2 bets $24
IsMiseJ raises to $67.75 (AI)
Evilpie2 calls $43.75

No reads on oppo at all so just playing the cards.

Seems standard to me but just wondered what others thought particularly turn bet and instcall.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2009, 07:03:54 PM »

Raise pre for me..even out of position this is a lovely hand..build the pot...everyone will take you for aces and think they can take it off you on the flop anyways.

Check call flop and then lead out turn is not something I like in any poker variant..why check call and then lead out?

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2009, 07:55:14 PM »

Raise pre for me..even out of position this is a lovely hand..build the pot...everyone will take you for aces and think they can take it off you on the flop anyways.

Check call flop and then lead out turn is not something I like in any poker variant..why check call and then lead out?



Check, call to re-evaluate depending on turn.

When turn brings the flush draw as well I feel happy to get the lot in but also happy to take it down now in case I miss.

Even though I've got a lot of outs there's only the none heart 6 that's a nut out so I'm happy to take what's there.

There's a lot of hands I'm behind to that might find a pass and if it goes check, check, miss then I've screwed the chance of taking a big pot.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2009, 08:08:48 PM »

Raise pre for me..even out of position this is a lovely hand..build the pot...everyone will take you for aces and think they can take it off you on the flop anyways.

Check call flop and then lead out turn is not something I like in any poker variant..why check call and then lead out?



Check, call to re-evaluate depending on turn.

When turn brings the flush draw as well I feel happy to get the lot in but also happy to take it down now in case I miss.

Even though I've got a lot of outs there's only the none heart 6 that's a nut out so I'm happy to take what's there.

There's a lot of hands I'm behind to that might find a pass and if it goes check, check, miss then I've screwed the chance of taking a big pot.

yeah they might find a pass but they also find that pass for $18-$20'ish. (if you want to lead out, I'm not a fan of full pot sized bets)

But; those hands will also find a pass if you check-raise them on the turn and that's why I prefer that move. If you do find you're up against a real hand though you still have outs.

Sure it could get check/check and you could miss the river and lose the pot, that's the risk you take to get the extra bet on the turn in.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 08:20:18 PM »

Check raising the turn is better than leading it though I think check calling is best here.

He isn't betting the flop without a hand like top 2/set minimum so leading the safest turn in the deck for him is like burning money because he's almost always moving in over the top here.
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