Interesting sattelite spot

[outragous76]

All I can really say about the 2 villains is that I am pretty sure UTG raiser wouldnt fold 77+  AJ+. Other player just moved to table


ave stack is currently 5k - 47 runners left 17 paid (so circa 14k for seat)

WWYD?

PokerStars Game #29906789937: Tournament #174785683, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2009/06/29 15:44:55 WET [2009/06/29 10:44:55 ET]
Table '174785683 6' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Rebuy_Rebuy (6425 in chips)
Seat 2: iMakaay (4384 in chips)
Seat 3: IRAPOS (5700 in chips)
Seat 4: vreselijk (2400 in chips)
Seat 5: rickwaa (7415 in chips)
Seat 6: outragous76 (6325 in chips)
Seat 7: VVF86 (6426 in chips)
Seat 8: gasi555 (4178 in chips)
Seat 9: Longthing (10264 in chips)
Rebuy_Rebuy: posts the ante 25
iMakaay: posts the ante 25
IRAPOS: posts the ante 25
vreselijk: posts the ante 25
rickwaa: posts the ante 25
outragous76: posts the ante 25
VVF86: posts the ante 25
gasi555: posts the ante 25
Longthing: posts the ante 25
rickwaa: posts small blind 150
outragous76: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [td ]
VVF86: raises 900 to 1200
gasi555: folds
Longthing: folds
Rebuy_Rebuy: folds
iMakaay: folds
IRAPOS: folds
vreselijk: folds
rickwaa: calls 1050
outragous76: ??/

[TheRaise]

Push or fold.  Cant see any merits putting 20% of your stack in to see a flop with this hand 3-way.

The more I think about it, the more I like a shove.  Puts the ball back in your opponents court.

[AlexMartin]

ur not close enough  to the bubble yet not to take any edge you have atm. shoving 1010 here is a tad thin but deffo ++++EV.

[TightEnd]

If UTG range is accurate at 77+/AJ+ I'm shoving

An added factor is already the sat is quite shallow, and you are a long way off.

[MC]

Shove...

[daviebhoy]

The 4*BB raise UTG sets alarm bells to me. If I haven't seen him raise this amount before then I think QQ+/AK is a more likely range.

I can find a fold here unless UTG makes a habit of raising big out of position and/or has been pretty active. If we are sure his range is 77+/AJ then shove.

[outragous76]

If UTG range is accurate at 77+/AJ+ I'm shoving

An added factor is already the sat is quite shallow, and you are a long way off.

I didnt say that this was his range - but from having played with him was pretty sure he wouldnt fold any of those hands to my shove

[arsah]

I also think so that you are not close enough  to the bubble yet not to take any edge you have atm;   

[dino1980]

All three options suck...

But meh, i play a lot of these and i'd probably be folding in this spot. The key in these turbo sattellites to the WU/Mirrion/nightly hundo is chipping up without showdown or getting it in in a 80/20 or 70/30 spot rather than a 55/45 or 60/40. 4x open UTG (unless this is his standard open) is never passing and if you shove and UTG calls, it's fairly likely the flat caller will come along for the ride domino stylee.