Showing cards during play

[raab11]

Whilst reading brunsons super system(again) i came across this and it got me thinking

doyle says if left in a hand with only one opponent, if he was decicing to call a big bet or not he would turn over his hole cards and gauge the player reaction!

anyone tried this? is it widely accepted? is it even allowed?

and particularly have any blondes tried it?

raab

[thetank]

Most of the information in Super System is now antiquated. Poker is a differet game since that book came out and that is why they've published Super System 2. (You can win a copy of this if you take 1st place at Cincinnati's this evening.)

Nowadays, under standard TDA rules revealing your hole cards during a hand by either exposing them or verbally declaring them has been outlawed. If you do this it may result in your cards being declared dead and you may also recieve a time penalty.

[raab11]

cheers tank

I kinda thought it sounded it a bit off.

btw ive been consistently winning on toughest with the wilson software u lent me. the percentage winning chance when heads up is great.

hope to see u at cincins tonight

ty m8 raab

hows ure luck been?

[dik9]

I contacted Bob Ciaffone on this subject and his response was as follows;

According to the Tournament Poker Director's Association, you cannot expose your cards even heads-up. When I had about 8 of the best players in the country help me with the rules for the professional association that we were organizing, they ALL agreed with me that the last two players should be exempt from this rule, because no one else is involved anymore. The TD's of course know this to be true, but their attitude when confronted by me over this was, "It is better to have one simple rule with no exceptions." The ONLY place I have a real disagreement with the tournament directors rules is over this rule.

I personally think its ok when only 2 people are DEALT in.

[Robert HM]

That maybe tournament rules but was Doyle referring to cash? Different rules can apply.

[mikkyT]

Rules in Glasgow tend to sway only slightly from that. For instance, A guy reraises me all in, and I ask how much to me, then he throws down his QQ on the table thinking I have called. I have 88. Now, the guys at the table screamed for the hand to be declared dead with the uncalled raise returned to him. But the TD said, no, hand stands and I dont have to call if I dont want... BLEH. But yeah, heads up this should be okay. His chips where already in the middle before he turned.

Three handed last night, I have an up and down straight draw, top pair (shit kicker) and a flush draw and DC bets into me 3000. I was getting ready to re-raise, picked up the stack of chips from the top of my cards but mistakenly pulled up the top card as it stuck to my very sweaty hand, and flipped itself over

[thetank]

Don't worry though. Common sense is applied when using this rule. If hole cards are exposed as a genuine mistake your hole cards will not be declared dead. In the case of the Queens that Mikky mentioned, the player who held them probably did make a genuine mistake and the TD was correct not to declare his hand dead. The rule is there to protect players, not to punish those that make genuine mistakes.

The dealer at the table will judge as to whether exposing the cards was a mistake or not. If either player is unhappy with this judgement then the tournament director is called over to make a ruling. (If the dealer declares the hand dead because of this rule, I imagine the TD would have to be called over 99% of the time)

[Bongo]

I think the QQ man has punished himself enough by giving his hand away.

[mikkyT]

Yes. But I wanted some free chips. So there! (Joke... I know it was in the interests of a fair game, I was just pointing out that we shouldn't always stick to the hard line).

[Jim-D]

I dont know any ruleing on it but i watch "LA Poker Scene" on the poker channel which is no limit cash games at the bicycle casino and it happens all the time on there when only 2 people in the hand

P.S Doyle also mentions it in SS2.