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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2010, 05:48:16 AM »

Certainly stars have more non us traffic than US traffic, so if they were forced to choose I am sure they would choose the rest of the world. A state regulated online site is a very real prospect though imo and would be bad as that is where the yank fish would almost certainly go.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2010, 09:41:25 AM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2010, 09:51:43 AM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?

No, I think that's what's being suggested in most of the States that are looking at it - not just that you won't be able to play non-Americans, but that you wouldn't be able to play across State lines
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2010, 09:52:58 AM »

Initial thoughts from a position of mostly ignorance.

It's either going to be very good (more US low end users in the marketplace), or very bad (Stars and FullTilt closed to people outside US).
Not being much of a gambler, I would rather nothing happened at all. Smiley

And I'd have thought Stars would do like they did in Italy and open a pokerstars.fl and pokerstars.otherstates for each state.
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2010, 09:53:37 AM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?

No, I think that's what's being suggested in most of the States that are looking at it - not just that you won't be able to play non-Americans, but that you wouldn't be able to play across State lines

All the big sites have our addresses, I'm sure it would be easy for the sites to tax appropriately based on where you live? They shouldn't have to split it up into countries/states.
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2010, 10:30:16 AM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?

No, I think that's what's being suggested in most of the States that are looking at it - not just that you won't be able to play non-Americans, but that you wouldn't be able to play across State lines

All the big sites have our addresses, I'm sure it would be easy for the sites to tax appropriately based on where you live? They shouldn't have to split it up into countries/states.

the intra-us thing has nothing to do with tax, but to do with keeping money in the state(s) (both profits and player funds).

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2010, 11:35:03 AM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?

No, I think that's what's being suggested in most of the States that are looking at it - not just that you won't be able to play non-Americans, but that you wouldn't be able to play across State lines

I think it comes from the (very succesful) Italian legislative model, where operators who want an Italian licence have to restrict both the types of games offered and the player pool. So lower stakes games where only Italian players can play against Italian players. France is likely to adopt a similar approach.

The US is a huge market, and has the potential to be even bigger. There is no need, in a liquidity sense, to offer your product internationally. It would also be a bonus to say it's just for US citizens as it would make it easier to block/ban/restrict offshore sites in the name of consumer protection.

As for those who think firms would focus on the RoW rather than the US. The US is by FAR the biggest online poker market. And it is much much easier to market your brand to the US than the various different markets in Europe with different languages and cultures that all put together are only as big as the US is on its own.

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2010, 04:13:44 PM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?

No, I think that's what's being suggested in most of the States that are looking at it - not just that you won't be able to play non-Americans, but that you wouldn't be able to play across State lines

I think it comes from the (very succesful) Italian legislative model, where operators who want an Italian licence have to restrict both the types of games offered and the player pool. So lower stakes games where only Italian players can play against Italian players. France is likely to adopt a similar approach.

The US is a huge market, and has the potential to be even bigger. There is no need, in a liquidity sense, to offer your product internationally. It would also be a bonus to say it's just for US citizens as it would make it easier to block/ban/restrict offshore sites in the name of consumer protection.

As for those who think firms would focus on the RoW rather than the US. The US is by FAR the biggest online poker market. And it is much much easier to market your brand to the US than the various different markets in Europe with different languages and cultures that all put together are only as big as the US is on its own.



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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2010, 04:32:04 PM »

Where does this suggestion that they may close to all but US players come from? Are you just throwing outside possibilities around?

No, I think that's what's being suggested in most of the States that are looking at it - not just that you won't be able to play non-Americans, but that you wouldn't be able to play across State lines

I think it comes from the (very succesful) Italian legislative model, where operators who want an Italian licence have to restrict both the types of games offered and the player pool. So lower stakes games where only Italian players can play against Italian players. France is likely to adopt a similar approach.

The US is a huge market, and has the potential to be even bigger. There is no need, in a liquidity sense, to offer your product internationally. It would also be a bonus to say it's just for US citizens as it would make it easier to block/ban/restrict offshore sites in the name of consumer protection.

As for those who think firms would focus on the RoW rather than the US. The US is by FAR the biggest online poker market. And it is much much easier to market your brand to the US than the various different markets in Europe with different languages and cultures that all put together are only as big as the US is on its own.



dont piss on the bonfire!!!!!!!



Haha! I'm just saying be careful what you wish for!!
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